How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Tom Graves]

Considering where I came from and what I had to overcome ... well, yes, kind of proud. I think that's why I get under the skin of some folks here: I don't hate myself - quite the opposite, in fact. I have no false humility about the abilities with which I've been blessed. I have no false humility about what I've achieved solely through my own efforts despite pretty long odds. I am by no means arrogant; I am simply content with myself and my life, which drives people like you and Dan crazy. At 76, I have no reason to humor nutcases like you or angry buffoons like Dan. I know nothing about either one of you, but my guess would be that life hasn't turned out the way you'd hoped. If someone wants to deal with me on reasonable and reasonably normal terms, that's what they'll get back from me. If they want to play silly games, they'll get their silly games shoved back up their asses because I'm really, really good at it.

You're at least borderline insane - of this I'm convinced. There is something very, very wrong with Dan; I have no idea what it is, but he's consumed by anger and bile completely out of proportion to whatever is consuming him is worth. You both need help - badly - and a JFKA forum is probably not the place to find it. This place is little more than an outlet for your insanity and anger. I wish you well, but your problems aren't my problems and I assure you I will never again respond to anything either of you says. Rant on but shove it up your Bahookie as far as I'm concerned.

Dear MGFPP,

It's sad to see a grown man like you come across as a thirteen-year-old macho genius fancy pants prancer.

-- Tom

[Dan O'meara]

Considering where I came from and what I had to overcome ... well, yes, kind of proud. I think that's why I get under the skin of some folks here: I don't hate myself - quite the opposite, in fact. I have no false humilty about the abilities with which I've been blessed. I have no false humility about what I've achieved solely through my own efforts despite pretty long odds. I am by no means arrogant; I am simply content with myself and my life, which drives people like you and Dan crazy. At 76, I have no reason to humor nutcases like you or angry buffoons like Dan. I know nothing about either one of you, but my guess would be that life hasn't turned out the way you'd hoped. If someone wants to deal with me on reasonable and reasonably normal terms, that's what they'll get back from me. If they want to play silly games, they'll get their silly games shoved back up their asses because I'm really, really good at it.

You're at least borderline insane - of this I'm convinced. There is something very, very wrong with Dan; I have no idea what it is, but he's consumed by anger and bile completely out of proportion to whatever is consuming him is worth. You both need help - badly - and a JFKA forum is probably not the place to find it. This place is little more than an outlet for your insanity and anger. I wish you well, but your problems aren't my problems and I assure you I will never again respond to anything either of you says. Rant on, but shove it up your Bahookie as far as I'm concerned.

 I will never again respond to anything either of you says.

 
What did I post but a couple of hours ago - "If my watch is correct it's almost time for you to run away"
Right on cue, the delusional Payette beats his hasty retreat.
And as I have posted every time he disappears - your absence will be sorely unmissed.

The trick with Nutters like Payette, Smith, Corbett etc. is to introduce the most simple facts that undermine their spoon-fed beliefs. And there are so many such facts in this case.
Goodbye Lance. 

[Brian Doyle]

Andrew Iler has posted Bart Kamp's Prayer Man lecture at the 2023 Lancer Conference under the title "Best Content In the New JFK Media"...

He has done so while locking the thread from replies and creating new site rules that disallow any questioning of the administration's judgment...

This is the reforming of The Education Forum...

The Prayer Man theory is, of course, the biggest hoax theory to ever get legs in the JFK research community...This seals the hijacking of the JFK internet by the Prayer Man clique...

[Royell Storing]

Andrew Iler has posted Bart Kamp's Prayer Man lecture at the 2023 Lancer Conference under the title "Best Content In the New JFK Media"...

He has done so while locking the thread from replies and creating new site rules that disallow any questioning of the administration's judgment...

This is the reforming of The Education Forum...

The Prayer Man theory is, of course, the biggest hoax theory to ever get legs in the JFK research community...This seals the hijacking of the JFK internet by the Prayer Man clique...

 This "reforming of The Education Forum", sounds a lot like the Socialist's/Nazi's seizing control of the Democrat Party.

[Royell Storing]

While one is always entitled to engage in thought experiments, a thought experiment taking Vicki Adams' story at face value seems a stretch to me in light of the fact that Sandra Styles, her companion, always said she thought Vicki's time estimate was at least somewhat off and, more importantly, was adamant that Shelley and Lovelady were not there. Occam (or Ockham, if you prefer) tells me a more plausible thought experiment has Vicki conflating her and Styles' trip down the stairs with a slightly later encounter by her with Shelley and Lovelady when they reentered the TSBD. But, hey, that's just my and Occam's little thought experiment.

Bart Kamp summarizes what Styles repeatedly told Barry Ernest here: http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/sandra-styles/. Sean Murphy also followed up with her after Ernest's book came out. I also found a long discussion at Greg Parker's forum where the sentiment seemed to be that the "Shelley and Lovelady" question and answer had been fiendishly inserted into Vicki's actual WC testimony precisely to make it seem that she and Styles must have left the fourth floor window later than she thiought. Greg seemed to find this unlikely, and my thought experiment doesn't require any such shenanigans by the WC; in mine, the two cuties can have come down the stairs however quickly you like, with Vicki simply being a bit off as to when she saw Shelley and Lovelady.

(Lots of Sandra Styles' stuff for sale on eBay. Don't miss your chance: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175838680679. I may have got burnt on $1200 worth of Bogus Imposter Haygood autographs, but this Styles stuff is the real deal.)

   The "superior intellect" was duped into buying $1200 of "Bogus Imposter Haygood Autographs"?  WOWSER!

[Brian Doyle]

If someone could get the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy we could take a better look at Molina in front of Calvery on the steps...

[Royell Storing]

If someone could get the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy we could take a better look at Molina in front of Calvery on the steps...

   You need to be clear as to which figure you are referring to, "in front of Calvery". If that is the figure labeled "Lovelady", you got some explaining to do. That "Lovelady" figure is standing almost Exactly where Lovelady is standing on Altgens 6. Plus, I think Molina had a full length coat on. The figure labeled "Lovelady" appears to have a Shirt on. I also believe we are seeing (R) arm flesh tones on this "Lovelady" figure.