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Author Topic: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?  (Read 75261 times)

Online Royell Storing

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #308 on: July 06, 2026, 03:14:53 PM »
Lovelady also has a bald head.
I assume you agree that the woman this man is talking to is Gloria Calvery. If that is the case your identification is clearly in error.
Molina states that he interacted with Gloria and her companion inside the lobby.
Lovelady states he interacted with Gloria while he was still on the steps.
Frazier also recalls a lady, who can only be Gloria, coming up to the steps and telling everyone about the shooting in a distraught manner.
This is what we are seeing here.

You've also skipped over this part of my post:


So many researchers have swallowed down the 'sharpened' image supposedly identifying Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm Street Extension approximately 20-25 seconds after the shooting.
What these researchers reach for is the WC testimonies of these men in which they state they wandered along the extension after the shooting.
However, what these same researchers are willing to ignore in the same testimonies boggles the mind:

Both men state they remained on the steps after the shooting until Gloria Calvery came up to the steps.
Both men testified that it was at least 3 minutes until Gloria came running up.
Both men testified that they only left the steps after listening to Gloria talk about the shooting.
Both men testified that they then moved out to the "little old island" after interacting with Gloria.
Both men testified that it was AFTER they left the steps that they turned around and saw Truly and Baker still outside the building.

The WC testimony of both men is a tissue of easily disprovable lies. Lies disproven by the Darnell/Couch footage. Disproven by the Truly/Baker time trials. Disproven by the testimony of Victoria Adams who saw both men on the first floor approximately 60 seconds after the shooting. Disproven by their own same-day affidavits, which make no mention of this fictitious trip along the extension.


How do you reconcile the WC testimonies of Shelley and Lovelady with this image?
Also, the man in the image is not wearing the pure white shirt of Molina.




PS: I identify the woman in white as Hicks because I have a vague memory that a researcher talked to Carol Reed who said she had no memory of accompanying Gloria back to the steps. I also have the vague memory that researcher was you.

   Excellent still frame that drives your Lovelady ID home. I also believe that still frame also strengthens the other guy being Shelley.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #309 on: Yesterday at 10:28:47 PM »
You're bucking against reality because the man fast-walking up the extension is provably Lovelady because of the unmistakable plaid pattern seen on his shirt...
The only other alternative then becomes Molina...Not only can you see the shape of Molina's head on this man, in the best resolution copies, but you can also see Molina's distinct bald pattern that is different than Lovelady's...This man who is facing Calvery is in the exact position Molina said he was in when he said he walked across the top platform from the east side to the west and then went down the front steps...

Molina did interact with Calvery and the other woman in the Lobby when he returned...The fact he interacted with them in the Lobby when he returned does not preclude him from being the man facing Calvery in Darnell...

1] You're clearly unaware what the topic of this thread is. Read the OP at least.
2] The man in the image I posted is also wearing a plaid shirt and, most definitely, not the white shirt Molina was wearing.
3] During his WC testimony Molina is specifically asked if a girl had come up while he was on the steps and mentioned the President being shot, to which he said "no". This alone proves it wasn't Molina. When asked about Gloria he mentioned nothing about being on the steps. He specifically states he was in the lobby when he interacted with her. Molina's WC testimony does preclude him from being the man on the steps. As does the lack of white shirt:

Mr. BALL. Had somebody come up and said the President was shot before you saw Truly go in?
Mr. MOLINA. No.
Mr. BALL. Do you know a girl named Gloria Calvary?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did Gloria come up?
Mr. MOLINA. Yes, she came. I was in the lobby standing there and she came in with this other girl.


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Frazier said Lovelady & Shelley spoke to Calvery at the base of the steps before they took off up the extension...The Couch/Darnell clip shows the period after this exchange while Lovelady & Shelley have already taken off up the extension...Calvery telling Lovelady & Shelley that Kennedy had been shot at the Knoll is what caused the pair to want to run up there and check it out...



When did Frazier say this?
During his WC testimony he seems to be just guessing what Shelley and Lovelady did. He doesn't seem to really know.

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The reason I assumed it was Reed is because she told me that all she remembered was panicking and running back to the Depository...Reed told me she remembers being in such a panicked state that she had to hurdle over motorcade spectators who had laid down on the ground trying to avoid bullets...Logic makes me assume the woman in all white next to Calvery is Reed simply because of that panic getting her there ahead of Hicks, who is probably the woman in the white blouse and black skirt who followed-up Calvery and Reed from their position in the spectators...

Because of a certain martinet moderator on The EF, because this exclusive interview with Reed came from me, it was met with wicked disinterest...The idea is that anything that comes from me, no matter how significant and unprecedented, is to be wickedly ignored with intent and denied...A purposeful destruction of the source no matter how important the content...A violation of commonly understood research standards as a preferred organized method...Anti-intellectualism in its most satanically directed form...Banning on that forum is a call to the mob for personal destruction of that researcher and his research...Savages pretending to be gentlemen...

Reed or Hicks. It doesn't really matter but if you feel from your interview of Reed that it might have been her that's good enough for me.
I'm still pretty sure you said something else but it's not a hill I'm willing to die on.
For what it's worth, you had left this forum not long after I was getting involved. I thought the Prayer Man cult was pure nonsense and it seemed to me the only real candidate was Sarah Stanton. When I expressed this I was surprised by how vehement the opposition was to this notion. There were a lot of insults but the main one was the 'new Brian Doyle'. I get the impression I was supposed to be really offended by this.

LATER EDIT: How do you reconcile the WC testimonies of Shelley and Lovelady with the identification of the men on the extension. This is what really disproves the identification so I would like to hear how you navigate it.
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