How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Dan O'meara]

So many researchers have swallowed down the 'sharpened' image supposedly identifying Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm Street Extension approximately 20-25 seconds after the shooting.
What these researchers reach for is the WC testimonies of these men in which they state they wandered along the extension after the shooting.
However, what these same researchers are willing to ignore in the same testimonies boggles the mind:

Both men state they remained on the steps after the shooting until Gloria Calvery came up to the steps.
Both men testified that it was at least 3 minutes until Gloria came running up.
Both men testified that they only left the steps after listening to Gloria talk about the shooting.
Both men testified that they then moved out to the "little old island" after interacting with Gloria.
Both men testified that it was AFTER they left the steps that they turned around and saw Truly and Baker still outside the building.

The WC testimony of both men is a tissue of easily disprovable lies. Lies disproven by the Darnell/Couch footage. Disproven by the Truly/Baker time trials. Disproven by the testimony of Victoria Adams who saw both men on the first floor approximately 60 seconds after the shooting. Disproven by their own same-day affidavits, which make no mention of this fictitious trip along the extension.
Below is a still from the Darnell footage taken approximately 20 seconds after the shooting. This is the same moment the "fake" Shelley and Lovelady are walking along the extension. It shows the moment Gloria reaches the steps and is telling everyone about the shooting. Lovelady is directly in front of her listening to what she is saying. Shelley is near the bottom of the steps after returning from the "little old island" where he met Gloria running the other way.



It is physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to be walking along the extension in the Darnell/Couch footage if they have to wait for Gloria to arrive.

[Royell Storing]

Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:

   DAN - Excellent work above. As always.

[Dan O'meara]

   DAN - Excellent work above. As always.

Just asking some genuine questions that, I believe, point to something incredibly suspicious that happened that day.
Shelley and Lovelady lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. This is not difficult to demonstrate.
Why would they do that?
And why would the Warren Commission do everything in it's power to uphold these easily demonstrable lies?
It's supposed to be such a simple story - one lunatic assassin and everyone else innocently going about their business.
The endless lies and deception point to a different story.

[Royell Storing]

Just asking some genuine questions that, I believe, point to something incredibly suspicious that happened that day.
Shelley and Lovelady lied about their movements in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. This is not difficult to demonstrate.
Why would they do that?
And why would the Warren Commission do everything in it's power to uphold these easily demonstrable lies?
It's supposed to be such a simple story - one lunatic assassin and everyone else innocently going about their business.
The endless lies and deception point to a different story.

   Shelley and Lovelady walking through the TSBD Front door and then back to the 1st Floor Freight Elevator is an extremely interesting possibility. I have never heard anyone else ever pitch that. I hope that you do more threads such as this in the future. Your wide ranging thought process and the evidence used to support it is very uncommon around here.

[Lance Payette]

I "peeped" repeatedly.


This is a lie.
Not once have you made the slightest attempt to answer the questions raised in this thread.
But here's your big chance.
In front of the forum.
And don't bother with your usual disappearing routine.
Answer, or attempt to answer, these two very simple questions:

How did Bart Kamp come up with the extraordinarily detailed picture of 'Lovelady' from a degraded image?
Why can't this detail be recreated from a far superior image?

Rather than your constant lies and bluster, why not actually do what you constantly claim to do.

WHAT? No, wait:

WHAT???

Now I am supposed to explain Bart's enhancement?

I have no reason to doubt, and have never doubted, long before I had ever seen Bart's enhancement, that the two figures are Shelley and Lovelady. Moreover, I don't have a cockamamie theory that requires them not to be. I don't think Bart even has a theory that requires them to be or not to be (Shakespeare!); I believe he merely determined that they clearly are.

I don't care how Bart enhanced the image. I don't know or care why you, who admitted you know nothing about image enhancement, can't seem to duplicate it. You folks raised the issue, I contacted Bart because I had previously exchanged emails with him and that seemed rather a logical thing to do, and I then challenged you folks to take it up directly with him.

My "constant lies"? What would those be?

Only in Conspiracy World can reality be turned on its head like this.

[Lance Payette]

   Here we go again. Around here, there is no such thing as "REASONABLE Proof". You either have "PROOF" or You don't. Currently, You don't! You need to raise your standards. The bar is Higher here.

Watch a lot of Rodney Dangerfield videos do you, Royell?

[Lance Payette]

Just in case anyone actually cares about this silliness, here is what Bart actually said in 2016-2018, http://www.prayer-man.com/billy-nolan-lovelady-and-bill-shellly-did-leave-the-steps-almost-immediately-after-the-shots-were-fired/.

Look at Bart's page and decide for yourself if he is "faking" for some reason or if perhaps our two resident loons are off in the conspiracy ozone as they so often are.

I am not Bart's spokesman. I have no dog in the fight. It wouldn't change my JFKA theology if he did fake the image. I simply have no reason whatsoever to think he did, while having plenty of reason to think the resident loons are once again off in the conspiracy ozone.

And that, truly, is all I have to say about that.

I am going to put an end to this debate whether Lovelady and Shelley stayed on the steps as they claimed in their Warren Commission testimonies and to which certain people subscribe to for some obscure reason, there is just plenty to refute this rubbish assertion.

Photo evidence.

For starters, take a look at the Gerda Dunckel gifs below and check Lovelady’s shirt in the very first few frames and also check out the large still I snagged from PBS Breaking The News, click to enlarge, yes that shirt is checkered, compare it to other garments of a lighter colour or the polka dot coat which do not smudge due to  motion and quality loss. Then look at Shelley, with his black suit and his facial and hair features. For reference of who we are talking about I suggest you check out Billy Lovelady’s and Bill Shelley’s pages I have made which contain plenty of photographs of these two individuals. Both pages are still under construction but there is plenty to see from a visual point of view.

Upon looking at the image by Couch we see that Shelley wears a black jacket and that Lovelady’s shirt has black horizontal stripes in it. I will place a close-up below. This is not the end result of sharpening and cannot be construed as a digital artifact. Click to enlarge the shot above and you will see that these stripes are nowhere else to be seen on this image. The polka dot coat stays as is, the camouflage/dot coat as well. And even in the light toned skirts/coats there are no such markings to be seen.

Here is a collage of Lovelady’s shirt in many settings.

Add on photographs Oct 14th 2016.

This ROKC Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives.

I applied various ways of sharpening with overall decent results to be absolutely positive that these two are Shelley and Lovelady. Lovelady’s shirt is a dead give away and so is the shape of Shelley, compare that with the collage below.

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These statements and the Warren Commission testimonies by Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady show plenty that they did leave the steps almost immediately after the shooting and that they cannot be accounted on the steps for in the Jimmy Darnell film, besides walking westwards and being seen doing so in a better capture in the Malcolm Couch film.