How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2025, 03:10:09 AM »
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Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

   This Couch Film still frame is taking place roughly 20 seconds after the kill shot. There's no way Shelley and Lovelady could have talked with Calvery and then began walking down the Elm St Ext in only 20 seconds. The 2 guys we see have just exited their "getaway" car. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #153 on: December 16, 2025, 03:20:45 AM »
This Couch film still frame is taking place roughly 20 seconds after the kill shot. There's no way Shelley and Lovelady could have talked with Calvery and then began (sic) walking down the Elm Street Extension in only 20 seconds. The two guys we see have just exited their "getaway" car.

Okay.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #154 on: Yesterday at 11:04:18 PM »
This is the 'Lovelady' image Bart Kamp produced from a large print obtained for him from the collection of Richard Sprague.



This image seems to include an incredible amount of detail, particularly on the shirt of 'Lovelady'.
However, the print from which Kamp got this 'Lovelady' image is of such poor quality that is very hard to understand how this amount of detail could be present when far superior pictures show no such detail.
Kamp alludes to this contradiction in his description of how he came across the Sprague print:

"This...Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives."

How can it be that the Sprague print "doesn't overall have much information", yet the part of it showing Lovelady's shirt does?

This is a copy of the Sprague print that Kamp used to get his image of Lovelady from:



Look at the poor quality of this image in general. How washed out it is and how there is a lack of fine detail. As Kamp points out, there is not much overall information in this print, as it is of such poor quality.
In contrast, here is an image from the Couch footage taken from "Four Days In November":



Look at how superior this image is in quality, look at how much more detail is present in this image, how much more information is present overall.
One would have thought that the more detailed picture of 'Lovelady' would come from this superior image.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
The picture of 'Lovelady' that has the very fine detail (of the distinctive check pattern of his shirt) comes from the inferior image.
How can that be?

This is a crop of 'Lovelady' from the Sprague print and 4 Days.



How was Kamp able to obtain such fine detail from the inferior Sprague print when no such detail is present in the far superior copy from 4 Days?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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  I agree with you regarding Kamp probably enhancing the alleged Lovelady shirt.  Kamp fudged things to fit his Prayer Man scenario. I do not believe that: (1) Calvery could travel to Lovelady & Shelley, (2) tell them about JFK being shot, (3) Lovelady & Shelley then be filmed walking down the Elm St Ext, (4) ALL within 20 seconds following the kill shot.   

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« Reply #156 on: Yesterday at 11:46:01 PM »
  I agree with you regarding Kamp probably enhancing the alleged Lovelady shirt.  Kamp fudged things to fit his Prayer Man scenario. I do not believe that: (1) Calvery could travel to Lovelady & Shelley, (2) tell them about JFK being shot, (3) Lovelady & Shelley then be filmed walking down the Elm Street Extension (4) ALL within 20 seconds following the kill shot.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

How many feet from the "island" do you figure big, tall Calvery was standing during the motorcade?

Regardless, do you think she casually strolled there after she saw the President's head get blown off a few feet away?


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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #157 on: Yesterday at 11:57:41 PM »
  I agree with you regarding Kamp probably enhancing the alleged Lovelady shirt.  Kamp fudged things to fit his Prayer Man scenario. I do not believe that: (1) Calvery could travel to Lovelady & Shelley, (2) tell them about JFK being shot, (3) Lovelady & Shelley then be filmed walking down the Elm St Ext, (4) ALL within 20 seconds following the kill shot.

Common Sense tells us it is impossible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps, tell everyone there about the assassination, after which Shelley and Lovelady are pictured walking down the Elm St Ext.
100% that did not happen.
Trolls like Tom are not interested in Common Sense or what's possible in reality.
As far as he is concerned, Kamp has magically produced an image of Lovelady and no amount of evidence can change what's left of his mind.

However, it is perfectly possible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps in the allotted time, where Darnell pictured her telling Lovelady and everyone on the steps about the assassination:





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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Trolls who call other people "troll" are the biggest trolls of all.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #159 on: Today at 12:08:25 AM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Trolls who call other people "troll" are the biggest trolls of all.

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Do some research and take part in the debates.
Your constant trolling is embarrassing.
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