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Online Royell Storing

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #147 on: November 13, 2025, 02:24:50 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

I figure the curb was struck by either a chunk of lead-antimony core from Oswald's Z-313 head shot, or by an ice bullet fired by your "Bad Guys In The Bushes."

-- Tom

    My blanket challenge of "Prove Me Wrong" regarding the "getaway car" remains standing. And it is standing exceptionally taller with each passing day as we approach the 62 yr anniversary. Respectfully, this discovery of a "getaway car" just withstood the scrutiny of yet another extremely well respected JFK Assassination Researcher. That "getaway car" is Not Present alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #148 on: November 13, 2025, 05:24:16 PM »
My blanket challenge of "Prove Me Wrong" regarding the "getaway car" remains standing. And it is standing exceptionally taller with each passing day as we approach the 62- year anniversary. Respectfully, this discovery of a "getaway car" just withstood the scrutiny of yet another extremely well-respected JFK Assassination Researcher. That "getaway car" is not present alongside the Island on the Wiegman film.


Dear Comrade Storing,

Your "Bad Guys in the Bushes" shot an ice bullet, right?

-- Tom

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #149 on: November 13, 2025, 05:34:49 PM »


Dear Comrade Storing,

Your "Bad Guys in the Bushes" shot an ice bullet, right?

-- Tom

   I am not familiar with an "ice bullet" itself or the weapon(s) that possibly fire one.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2025, 02:09:35 AM »
I am not familiar with an "ice bullet" itself or the weapon(s) that possibly fire one.

Perhaps you should look into it, Sonderführer Storing.

It's either that, or they just plum missed.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #151 on: December 16, 2025, 03:10:09 AM »
Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:

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I cropped and blew up the two men:

https://i.postimg.cc/65mQK4HZ/Lovelady-Royell2.png[/img]

There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

   This Couch Film still frame is taking place roughly 20 seconds after the kill shot. There's no way Shelley and Lovelady could have talked with Calvery and then began walking down the Elm St Ext in only 20 seconds. The 2 guys we see have just exited their "getaway" car. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2025, 03:20:45 AM »
This Couch film still frame is taking place roughly 20 seconds after the kill shot. There's no way Shelley and Lovelady could have talked with Calvery and then began (sic) walking down the Elm Street Extension in only 20 seconds. The two guys we see have just exited their "getaway" car.

Okay.

(LOL!)

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #153 on: December 17, 2025, 11:04:18 PM »
This is the 'Lovelady' image Bart Kamp produced from a large print obtained for him from the collection of Richard Sprague.

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This image seems to include an incredible amount of detail, particularly on the shirt of 'Lovelady'.
However, the print from which Kamp got this 'Lovelady' image is of such poor quality that is very hard to understand how this amount of detail could be present when far superior pictures show no such detail.
Kamp alludes to this contradiction in his description of how he came across the Sprague print:

"This...Scan of a Couch film still at first looks very harsh and doesn’t overall have much information, but it does happen to show a lot regarding our illustrious duo. This print comes from the Richard E. Sprague Collection from the National Archives."

How can it be that the Sprague print "doesn't overall have much information", yet the part of it showing Lovelady's shirt does?

This is a copy of the Sprague print that Kamp used to get his image of Lovelady from:



Look at the poor quality of this image in general. How washed out it is and how there is a lack of fine detail. As Kamp points out, there is not much overall information in this print, as it is of such poor quality.
In contrast, here is an image from the Couch footage taken from "Four Days In November":



Look at how superior this image is in quality, look at how much more detail is present in this image, how much more information is present overall.
One would have thought that the more detailed picture of 'Lovelady' would come from this superior image.
BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
The picture of 'Lovelady' that has the very fine detail (of the distinctive check pattern of his shirt) comes from the inferior image.
How can that be?

This is a crop of 'Lovelady' from the Sprague print and 4 Days.

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How was Kamp able to obtain such fine detail from the inferior Sprague print when no such detail is present in the far superior copy from 4 Days?