How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #136 on: November 10, 2025, 02:45:51 PM »
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Dear Comrade Storing,

What an ignorant question.

What would you like to know about it?

-- Tom

   You admit to being clueless about the elapsed firing time for all 3 shots now being almost doubled. Max Holland has addressed this directly via his Sixth Floor Museum presentation. It is posted on YOU TUBE. Holland has also moved the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St to make this extended firing time work. You are WAY Behind the curve. This is why I urge you to increase your JFK Assassination Knowledge Foundation. Learn how to walk before trying to run. You're currently stumbling.
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« Reply #137 on: Yesterday at 01:41:28 AM »
You admit to being clueless about the elapsed firing time for all three shots now being almost doubled. Max Holland has addressed this directly via his Sixth Floor Museum presentation. It is posted on YouTube. Holland has also moved the physical position of the JFK limo on Elm Street to make this extended firing time work.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Are you talking about something Max did fifteen years ago?

-- Tom

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You are way behind the curve. This is why I urge you to increase your JFK Assassination Knowledge Foundation. Learn how to walk before trying to run. You're currently stumbling.

Dear Comrade Storing,

That's a suggestion I refuse to accept.

-- Tom


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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #138 on: Yesterday at 03:13:54 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Are you talking about something Max did fifteen years ago?

-- Tom

Dear Comrade Storing,

That's a suggestion I refuse to accept.

-- Tom

   Where do you think this very early 1st shot, (before Zapruder filmed the JFK Limo), was hatched from? This started with Holland and that cockamamie stuff of his regarding a bullet striking the signal light support beam. There is ZERO EVIDENCE of a bullet striking that signal light. If You or I were to propose something of this nature, with ZERO EVIDENCE to support it, would see us getting laughed off of this forum. Holland somehow gets his schtick broadcast by National Geographic and guys like Gary Mack/"Sixth Floor Museum" are falling all over themselves to support it. Any wild scenario supporting a "lone gunman" is granted free rein with a cheering section to go along with it. You promote a "conspiracy" and you are immediately forced to run through a gauntlet.

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« Reply #139 on: Yesterday at 10:27:23 PM »
Where do you think this very early 1st shot, (before Zapruder filmed the JFK limo), was hatched from? This started with Holland and that cockamamie stuff of his regarding a bullet striking the signal light support beam. There is zero evidence of a bullet striking that signal light. If You or I were to propose something of this nature, with zero evidence to support it, would see us getting laughed off of this forum. Holland somehow gets his schtick broadcast by National Geographic and guys like Gary Mack/"Sixth Floor Museum" are falling all over themselves to support it. Any wild scenario supporting a "lone gunman" is granted free rein with a cheering section to go along with it. You promote a "conspiracy" and you are immediately forced to run through a gauntlet.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Holland did find an old painted-over shallow dent on the top of the mast arm near its juncture with the signal box.

I thought you knew that.

Regardless, based on the fine work of Roselle and Scearce, I think Oswald fired his first, missing-everything, shot about a second later at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second, film-saving pause.

-- Tom
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Dear Comrade Storing,

Holland did find an old painted-over shallow dent on the top of the mast arm near its juncture with the signal box.

I thought you knew that.

Regardless, based on the fine work of Roselle and Scearce, I think Oswald fired his first, missing-everything, shot about a second later at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second, film-saving pause.

-- Tom

   Sure I knew. But how about telling the WHOLE STORY. Holland originally claimed a bullet bounced off of the traffic signal itself. When an examination of the signal failed to show anything, he then took a fine tooth comb to the support arm. There he found a mere ding, which could easily have been the result of a very common Southern hail storm. Same old double standard being applied here. Anything claiming to support a shot from the sniper's nest gets an automatic free pass.

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Sure I knew. But how about telling the WHOLE STORY. Holland originally claimed a bullet bounced off of the traffic signal itself. When an examination of the signal failed to show anything, he then took a fine tooth comb to the support arm. There he found a mere ding, which could easily have been the result of a very common Southern hail storm. Same old double standard being applied here. Anything claiming to support a shot from the sniper's nest gets an automatic free pass.

Dear Comrade Storing,

What makes you think I think Holland's theory is correct?

Why are you obsessing on Holland's theory?

You do realize, don't you, that Roselle and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124" is about a second after Holland's hypothetical "Z-107"?

You do realize, don't you, that Brian Roselle has shown that it was possible that James Tague was nicked by a piece of concrete struck off the curb by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot?

-- Tom

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #142 on: Yesterday at 11:44:36 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

What makes you think I think Holland's theory is correct?

Why are you obsessing on Holland's theory?

You do realize, don't you, that Roselle and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124" is about a second after Holland's hypothetical "Z-107"?

You do realize, don't you, that Brian Roselle has shown that it was possible that James Tague was nicked by a piece of concrete struck off the curb by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot?

-- Tom

 Or maybe Tague's injury was the result of a shot fired from the, "Bushes/Shrubs/The Garden"?
 That car had No Reason to be rolling down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was under fire on Elm St. That car had No Reason to still be parked in a "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone, long after traffic was freely rolling down Elm St. That Car was a, "Getaway Car"!

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« Reply #143 on: Yesterday at 11:55:48 PM »
Or maybe Tague's injury was the result of a shot fired from the, "Bushes/Shrubs/The Garden"? That car had no reason to be rolling down the Elm Street Extension while the JFK limo was under fire on Elm Street. That car had no reason to still be parked in a "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone, long after traffic was freely rolling down Elm Street. That car was a "Getaway Car"!

Dear Comrade Storing,

1) The lead-and-antimony smear on the curb had no copper in it.

2) "Getaway Car" or Getaway Car?

-- Tom




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