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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #120 on: November 06, 2025, 02:45:10 AM »
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You do know that Max Holland is claiming [sic] that the 1st shot fired from the Sniper's Nest missed?

Will-we?

My comment: Although Max Holland is probably wrong that the bullet glanced off the traffic signal's mast arm at hypothetical "Z-107," it's totally plausible that Oswald missed everything with his shot at hypothetical "Z-124" because it, like Holland's conjectured "Z-107" shot, was steeply-downward-angled and therefore Oswald had to stand and lean forward awkwardly while firing it.

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Also, the HSCA claimed the 4th shot fired from behind the picket fence missed.

As you know, the only reason the HSCA concluded there had been a fourth shot (gasp . . . from the bushes) was because it misinterpreted some sounds on the infamous Dictabelt recording.

D'oh!
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« Reply #121 on: November 06, 2025, 05:46:32 AM »

  You miss the point. The claim of a possible missed shot is not rare.

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« Reply #122 on: November 06, 2025, 06:13:06 AM »
You miss the point. The claim of a possible missed shot is not rare.

Dear Comrade Storing,

A missing-everything, steeply-downward-angled shot at a rapidly moving target is easy to understand; a missing-everything horizontal shot by a professional sniper and his spotter is hard to understand.

Why did the evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] send such a crummy sniper and spotter to shoot at JFK "from the bushes"?

And after missing miserably with their one-and-only shot, why did they try to join the motorcade in their "getaway car" instead of just leaving their rifle in it and mingling innocent-like "to see what the heck's going on, and maybe even to help catch the bad guy!!!"?

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« Reply #123 on: November 06, 2025, 06:14:39 AM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

A missing-everything, steeply-downward-angled shot at a rapidly moving target is easy to understand; a missing-everything horizontal shot by a professional sniper and his spotter is hard to understand.

Why did the evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] send such a crummy sniper and spotter to shoot at JFK "from the bushes," anyway?

And after missing miserably with their one-and-only shot, why did they try to join the motorcade in their "getaway car" instead of just leaving the rifle in it and mingling innocent-like with the crowd "to see what the heck's going on, and maybe even to help catch the bad guy!!!"?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #124 on: November 06, 2025, 02:11:56 PM »
Will-we?

My comment: Although Max Holland is probably wrong that the bullet glanced off the traffic signal's mast arm at hypothetical "Z-107," it's totally plausible that Oswald missed everything with his shot at hypothetical "Z-124" because it, like Holland's conjectured "Z-107" shot, was steeply-downward-angled and therefore Oswald had to stand and lean forward awkwardly while firing it.

As you know, the only reason the HSCA concluded there had been a fourth shot (gasp . . . from the bushes) was because it misinterpreted some sounds on the infamous Dictabelt recording.

D'oh!

   I continue urging you to "Do The Research". The HSCA claimed that the 4th shot/Missed Shot came from behind the Picket Fence. To my knowledge they made no mention of "the bushes". (Though that would strengthen my Discovery).

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« Reply #125 on: November 06, 2025, 02:38:11 PM »
The HSCA claimed that the 4th shot/missed shot came from behind the picket fence.
To my knowledge the HSCA made no mention of "the bushes".

Close enough for government work (pardon the pun).

Regardless of the exact location, it was a missing shot.

Which begs the question:

Why-oh-why did the evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] send such a crummy sniper (and spotter!!!, according to your tinfoil-hat CT) to kill JFK?

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« Reply #126 on: November 06, 2025, 04:39:12 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

A missing-everything, steeply-downward-angled shot at a rapidly moving target is easy to understand; a missing-everything horizontal shot by a professional sniper and his spotter is hard to understand.

Why did the evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] send such a crummy sniper and spotter to shoot at JFK "from the bushes"?

And after missing miserably with their one-and-only shot, why did they try to join the motorcade in their "getaway car" instead of just leaving their rifle in it and mingling innocent-like "to see what the heck's going on, and maybe even to help catch the bad guy!!!"?

-- Tom

    Regarding the sniper's nest shooter, you somehow left out the parts: (1) shooter is standing straight up, (2) firing straight down, (3) firing through a 1/4 open window, (4) leaves hulls behind, and (5) leaves weapon behind. If this is not a "frame job", it has got to be a, "crummy sniper".
   

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #127 on: November 06, 2025, 07:45:09 PM »
Regarding the sniper's nest shooter, you somehow left out the parts: (1) shooter is standing straight up, (2) firing straight down, (3) firing through a 1/4 open window, (4) leaves hulls behind, and (5) leaves weapon behind. If this is not a "frame job", it has got to be a "crummy sniper".

Dear Comrade Storing,

1) Not straight up; standing and awkwardly leaning forward

2) Not straight down, but at a steep downward angle, nevertheless

3) Through a 1/3 open window

4) So what if he left the three shells behind?

5) Should he have taken the short-rifle downstairs with him, walked a quarter-of-a-mile and gotten on the bus with it?

6) He was a former Marine sharpshooter. Anyone would have had a hard time making that first shot.

D'oh!




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