How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2025, 10:50:41 PM »
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   Wow! It is the images on the "WIEGMAN" fIlm that Hackerott and I are discussing. Not "Weitzman" as you claim above.
   At least now you are saying, "...car is PROBABLY parked alongside the island...". This is progress with respect to your evolving image analysis abilities.
   The Hackerott "overlay" you mention did Not use the absolute best Wiegman still frame in the visual aid he put together. I believe this reveals much concerning the detail of the Wiegman Film copy that he currently is examining/using. "Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" DVD is available on Ebay. I highly recommend it primarily for the JFK Assassination Films and still frames this Discovery Channel presentation includes. Wiegman also  tells his 11/22/63 story on this presentation.
   It is not easy for many JFK Assassination Researchers to accept that a "getaway" car has been on the Couch/Darnell Films for 61+ years. I am hoping that someone with the technical expertise will try to retrieve whatever is on the front license plate of this "getaway" car. There is at least 1 good Darnell still frame showing the entire front license plate on this car. There is a different color extending across the middle of the plate from L-R. Knowing the plate # might open some doors as to who was involved. As I mentioned earlier, this "getaway" car was parked/abandoned for an extended period of time in a, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone. Maybe that car was issued a DPD ticket containing the License Plate Number?           

Wowie zowie!!!

Nice catch, Comrade Storing!!!

By the way . . .

Among the women who are standing near the tip of the "island" in Weitzman I mean Wiegman, there's one who's wearing a dark-colored blouse or sweater and a light colored skirt (she's also visible in Couch-Darnell but she's turned to her right to look down towards the triple underpass), and to her immediate left in Weitzman I mean Wiegman there's a woman who's wearing all dark-colored clothes and is leaning forward (they both have their arms crossed).

If you'll look at the area between their lower legs in Weitzman I mean Wiegman at the 01:17 mark, I MIGHT BE WRONG -- but think you can see the tire and the hubcap of the evil, evil MYSTO GETAWAY CAR, which lines up perfectly with where the EVIL, EVIL MYSTO GETAWAY Car's right-front tire would be -- as indicated in James' masterfully aligned overlay of the pertinent Couch-Darnell frame and the Weitzman I mean Wiegman frame.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2025, 11:37:41 PM »

   The women you are referencing are standing on the Wrong Side of the Traffic Light Pole.  The "getaway" car was parked with its' front bumper roughly even with the Traffic Light Pole. The car stretched BACK toward the railroad yard. If you are basing your claims on the above posted copy of the Wiegman Film, you need to shop around for a higher definition copy. This might explain your observational issues.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2025, 11:51:45 PM »
The women you are referencing are standing on the Wrong Side of the Traffic Light Pole.  The "getaway" car was parked with its' front bumper roughly even with the Traffic Light Pole. The car stretched BACK toward the railroad yard. If you are basing your claims on the above posted copy of the Wiegman Film, you need to shop around for a higher definition copy. This might explain your observational issues.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Are you saying that the car Officer Baker is running in front of in the Couch clip isn't your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR?

If not, where, then, is your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR parked in the Couch clip?

Next to the "island," but behind the car Officer Baker is running in front of?

Next to the "island," but in front of the car that Officer Baker is running in front of?

Where-oh-where is your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in the Couch clip, Comrade Storing?

-- Tom
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 03:16:42 AM »

 All you have to do is examine the opening 40 seconds of the Darnell Film that the Sixth Floor Museum posted on You Tube. It's rumored to be a 1st generation copy. The car is very easy to see on this copy of the Darnell Film. The fact you are asking me for the location of the car tells me you have Failed to do your research.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #44 on: Yesterday at 03:23:55 AM »
All you have to do is examine the opening 40 seconds of the Darnell Film that the Sixth Floor Museum posted on You Tube. It's rumored to be a 1st generation copy. The car is very easy to see on this copy of the Darnell Film.

So, the car that Officer Baker's running in front of in the Couch clip IS your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR.

Good!

Thanks for answering my question!

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EDIT:  Oops, it looks as though I was wrong about the tire and hubcap on Storing's MYSTO "AVBANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in the Wiegman clip. I thought those two women I referred to were standing on the "island," but now I realize they were standing in the street near it, so the camera's perspective of the area visible between their lower legs isn't high enough to show a tire on a car parked next to the "island," much less its hubcap.
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« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 04:33:39 PM »
So, the car that Officer Baker's running in front of in the Couch clip IS your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR.

Good!

Thanks for answering my question!

. . . . . . . .

EDIT:  Oops, it looks as though I was wrong about the tire and hubcap on Storing's MYSTO "AVBANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in the Wiegman clip. I thought those two women I referred to were standing on the "island," but now I realize they were standing in the street near it, so the camera's perspective of the area visible between their lower legs isn't high enough to show a tire on a car parked next to the "island," much less its hubcap.

    Thanks for the admission above. All I ask is that you view: (1) A GOOD copy of the Wiegman Film showing the Island, and (2) The Darnell Film posted on You Tube by the Sixth Floor Museum. The Wiegman Film does NOT show the parked CAR we see Officer Baker running past on the Darnell Film. The Wiegman Filming of the Island was done about 25 seconds before the Darnell Film shows the same Island, the parked CAR, Officer Baker running past the car.   

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 04:59:38 PM »
    Thanks for the admission above. All I ask is that you view: (1) A GOOD copy of the Wiegman Film showing the Island, and (2) The Darnell Film posted on You Tube by the Sixth Floor Museum. The Wiegman Film does NOT show the parked CAR we see Officer Baker running past on the Darnell Film. The Wiegman Filming of the Island was done about 25 seconds before the Darnell Film shows the same Island, the parked CAR, Officer Baker running past the car.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR is probably hidden behind that gaggle of women in the Wiegman clip.

-- Tom

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 05:22:58 PM »

  "Probably"? We see NO CAR parked alongside the Island on the Wiegman Film. The Wiegman Film does show the spectators standing atop the Island. We can see between these spectators, yet we see NO CAR parked alongside the Island behind them. We can even see the street surface behind these spectators. But, we see NO CAR. It's not there yet. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
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