How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Lance Payette]

I have asked Bart Kamp if he would care to comment on Dan's claim of fakery. If he would, I'll pass it along. When riffraff CTers like Dan start accusing CT luminaries like Bart of fakery, we have reached some sort of nadir of lunacy.

I did not get this from Bart, but I independently learned that the enhancement was done in 2011 by renowned photo researcher Gerda Dunckel, whom I'm guessing probably didn't fake it. I believe she may have started a thread here on the subject that can no longer be retrieved. I know nothing about Gerda, but 95% of the references to her use the term "renowned."

Since Dan is once again in the process of making a fool of himself, perhaps someone would like to call him "renowned" and make him feel better? You don't have to be nasty and say what he's renowned for.

[Dan O'meara]

I have asked Bart Kamp if he would care to comment on Dan's claim of fakery. If he would, I'll pass it along. When riffraff CTers like Dan start accusing CT luminaries like Bart of fakery, we have reached some sort of nadir of lunacy.

I did not get this from Bart, but I independently learned that the enhancement was done in 2011 by renowned photo researcher Gerda Dunckel, whom I'm guessing probably didn't fake it. I believe she may have started a thread here on the subject that can no longer be retrieved. I know nothing about Gerda, but 95% of the references to her use the term "renowned."

Since Dan is once again in the process of making a fool of himself, perhaps someone would like to call him "renowned" and make him feel better? You don't have to be nasty and say what he's renowned for.

Once again, you're talking utter nonsense.
The image you posted is NOT a Gerda Dunkel image.
You have been corrected on this issue THREE TIMES now.

According to Kamp - "Terry Martin visits the National Archives in Washington for me and finds a huge Couch film print in Richard E Sprague’s collection."
This is a copy of the Sprague print at the Prayer Man website:



Look at this image.
Look at how unbelievably poor it is.
It's washed out and lacks all fine detail - except for Lovelady's shirt!
In contrast, look at this far superior Couch image from "4 Days in November":



Compare it to the Sprague image.
Look at how more superior this image is. Look at how much more detail is in this image.
Yet there is no hint whatsoever of the checkered pattern in this image or the 'bald spot'.



I wish I knew more about image enhancement because I can't figure out how this far superior image shows none of the fine detail we see in the shirt in the inferior Sprague image.
How can this be?
How does that work?
Any idea's old-timer?
And, by the way, how are you getting along with your timeline?

[Lance Payette]

I will let Bart answer if he chooses to do so. At least two sources credit the image to Gerda Dunckel. The image I posted here is NOT from the Prayer Man site, and the site where I did find it credits it to Dunckel. Indeed, it is not from Greg Parker's old site either, but that site credited Gerda and linked to an old thread here. Perhaps someone further enhanced an image Gerda had previously enhanced. I know that she was "renowned" for having identified Lovelady and Shelley in the Couch film. I really don't care. You are simply a CT blathering blowhard who must resort to claims of "fakery" - even by CTers far more respected than you can ever hope to be - in order to preserve your nutcase arguments. You have ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS to be accusing anyone of fakery. Claims of fakery are the last refuge of CT nutcases, as we see again and again.

From a 2012 thread at Greg Parker's old site: "Thanks to some superb film work by researcher Gerda Dunckel (Couch film/Lovelady and Shelley?), we now know that S & L left the front steps several seconds before Baker even arrived there. http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,6724.24.html."

Even more: Bart then posted the images seen at the Prayer Man site on the same thread on Greg's forum in 2016, calling them (as at PM) an "R*KC scan." He said, "I applied various ways of sharpening to the inserts." Hence, the PM enhancements are by Bart. The issue of fakery was not raised because, presumably, Dan was not yet born in 2016 or at least his mommy wouldn't let him play with the laptop.

Whatever.

[Dan O'meara]

I will let Bart answer if he chooses to do so. At least two sources credit the image to Gerda Dunckel. The image I posted here is NOT from the Prayer Man site, and the site where I did find it credits it to Dunckel. Indeed, it is not from Greg Parker's old site either, but that site credited Gerda and linked to an old thread here. Perhaps someone further enhanced an image Gerda had previously enhanced. I know that she was "renowned" for having identified Lovelady and Shelley in the Couch film. I really don't care. You are simply a CT blathering blowhard who must resort to claims of "fakery" - even by CTers far more respected than you can ever hope to be - in order to preserve your nutcase arguments. You have ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS to be accusing anyone of fakery. Claims of fakery are the last refuge of CT nutcases, as we see again and again.

From a 2012 thread at Greg Parker's old site: "Thanks to some superb film work by researcher Gerda Dunckel (Couch film/Lovelady and Shelley?), we now know that S & L left the front steps several seconds before Baker even arrived there. http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,6724.24.html."

Even more: Bart then posted the images seen at the Prayer Man site on the same thread on Greg's forum in 2016, calling them (as at PM) an "R*KC scan." He said, "I applied various ways of sharpening to the inserts." Hence, the PM enhancements are by Bart. The issue of fakery was not raised because, presumably, Dan was not yet born in 2016 or at least his mommy wouldn't let him play with the laptop.

Whatever.

You're just a dithering old fool who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Firstly, I haven't accused anyone of faking anything. You are to stop peddling this lie IMMEDIATELY.
Secondly, for the FOURTH time - the image Kamp 'sharpened' to create the image of 'Lovelady' (that you beleive is "conclusive") comes from the Sprague print. It does not come from Gerda, R*KC scans or anywhere else.
The image Kamp used does not come from any extant version of the Couch footage I can find or any scan of it.
It is a single print that I would very much like to see the original of.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, as you've ably demonstrated time and time again.
Cite where you got the image from you claim is from Gerda Dunkel.
And don't forget about the timeline you're supposed to be working on. Do you think you're just going to slither out of that?
It's time you started backing your claims up.
Explain to the forum how Shelley and Lovelady could be filmed by Couch walking along the extension 25 seconds after the assassination.
Remember, you've already accepted that Shelley and Lovelady were on the front steps when Gloria ran up to them.

[Lance Payette]

I quote Bart:

"The bald patch is a total giveaway.

I used 4 different sharpening techniques in photoshop."

Whatever, carry on.

(It is kind of a total giveaway.)

[Royell Storing]

Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    BUMP - In anticipation of ...............................  STAY TUNED  .............................................

[Tom Graves]

BUMP - In anticipation of ...............................  STAY TUNED  .............................................

Dear Comrade Storing,

The waiting is killing me!

Hopefully you'll receive the "peer review" of your tinfoil-hat JFKA CT from Vladimir Putin any minute now!

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    This is a Couch Film snippet showing a car parked alongside the Island on the corner of the Elm St Ext. This car is NOT visible on the Wiegman Film footage of this exact same area. Wiegman filmed this area roughly 30 seconds BEFORE Couch did. I believe this same car was moving down the Elm St Ext when Wiegman filmed this area. Roughly 30 seconds later when this Couch still frame was shot, that car had finished traveling down the Elm St Ext and parked on the corner. (Even though this was a well posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone).  I believe that the plan was to immediately make a (R) hand turn onto Elm St as soon as the JFK Motorcade was no longer blocking this cars' pathway to do so. Prior to the JFK Motorcade getting out of way of this car, DPD Officer Smith ran by this car in order to check the bushes that ran down the Elm St Ext, and DPD Motorcycle Officer Baker turned his motorcycle onto Elm St, (directly in front of this car), parked his motorcycle at the curb, and then on foot ran directly in front of this car as he headed for the TSBD. This spooked the 2 Guys inside the car, and they exited the car.
    The 2 Guys we see above are the 2 Guys that were seconds earlier inside the car. They have exited the car and are moving down the Elm St Ext. They are distancing themselves from the car as they see DPD Law Enforcement beginning to cluster around the TSBD. I do Not believe these 2 Guys are Lovelady & Shelley. The shorter man is alleged to be Lovelady. Lovelady was a burly/husky man. Lovelady had almost No Neck. The shorter man on this Couch Film snippet has a long, skinny neck. A "pencil neck". This shorter man is NOT Lovelady.
    I believe these 2 Guys are distancing themselves from the car due to a recently fired rifle being inside the trunk. That rifle was fired through the bushes that extend down the Elm St Ext. These are the same bushes that we see DPD Officer Smith checking on the Couch/Darnell films. Why else would this car be traveling down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was still on Elm St? Why else would we see this car 15-20 minutes later still parked at the corner? (Hughes film snippet showing the front steps of the TSBD). The 2 Guys above are a shooter and a spotter and that was their getaway car that they were forced to abandon.