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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #385 on: November 08, 2025, 02:23:14 PM »
  O'MEARA - Have you gone through that YOU TUBE piece by Lone Gunman (1:37:49)? It looks like a lot of this is Kamp's work. It was posted 9 yrs ago and I am just beginning to sort through it. A ton of stuff in this opus applies to your alleged Lovelady/Shelley movements. Let me know if you have not gone through it and I'll direct you exactly where it is at. Very detailed, extremely interesting. Diamonds in the rough throughout I am sure.
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #386 on: November 09, 2025, 09:46:53 AM »
  O'MEARA - Have you gone through that YOU TUBE piece by Lone Gunman (1:37:49)? It looks like a lot of this is Kamp's work. It was posted 9 yrs ago and I am just beginning to sort through it. A ton of stuff in this opus applies to your alleged Lovelady/Shelley movements. Let me know if you have not gone through it and I'll direct you exactly where it is at. Very detailed, extremely interesting. Diamonds in the rough throughout I am sure.

Hmmmm...interesting change of subject.
Let's just put a line under what we were discussing - you have provided no argument that undermines the timeline I've put forward. The timeline stands.

I'm aware of the Lone Gunman Podcast, but I don't know if that's what you mean.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #387 on: November 09, 2025, 02:25:26 PM »
Hmmmm...interesting change of subject.
Let's just put a line under what we were discussing - you have provided no argument that undermines the timeline I've put forward. The timeline stands.

I'm aware of the Lone Gunman Podcast, but I don't know if that's what you mean.

   A "podcast" that was posted on YOU TUBE 9 yrs ago? That is a long time ago with respect to possible "podcasts". This piece is specifically aimed at Prayer Man, but it does contain hundreds of images and discusses every filmer/photog that captured that general area from the "Island" back to the TSBD Front Door. This area includes the images of the "2 Guys" moving down the Elm St Ext toward the railroad yard. It also highlights your buddy Bart Kamp. I thought I was possibly doing you a favor here, but everyone has their own "bar" as to how deep of a JFK Assassination "research" dive they are willing to undertake. Just remember that Facts/Information are valuable and you just never know where you might stumble across a Fact that serves as your own personal JFK Assassination Rosetta Stone.   

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #388 on: Yesterday at 01:27:05 AM »


Contrary to what Fancy Prancer Rants and Stormtrooper Storing think [sic], the women in this Darnell frame are not, from left to right, "Uhh ... I'm not sure," Gloria Calvert [sic], and ditzy Karen Westbrook, but self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Jeanne Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons.

Unfortunately, they mistakenly told the FBI (or one of them did and the FBI agent created a boiler-plate template for the other two to sign) that they were standing on the south side of Elm Street during the motorcade.

Factoid: They were standing on the north side of Elm Street, as can be seen in the Zapruder film where they're standing "next to" the Stemmons Freeway sign.

D'oh!
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« Reply #389 on: Yesterday at 06:39:48 PM »
Contrary to what Fancy Prancer Rants and Stormtrooper Storing think [sic], the women in this Darnell frame are not, from left to right, "Uhh ... I'm not sure," Gloria Calvert [sic], and ditzy Karen Westbrook, but self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Jeanne Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons.

Unfortunately, they mistakenly told the FBI (or one of them did and the FBI agent created a boiler-plate template for the other two to sign) that they were standing on the south side of Elm Street during the motorcade.

Factoid: They were standing on the north side of Elm Street, as can be seen in the Zapruder film where they're standing "next to" the Stemmons Freeway sign.

D'oh!

    You're babbling. What's your point?

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« Reply #390 on: Yesterday at 08:04:11 PM »
What's your point?

Lance Payette and you are mistaken if you think that the woman on the left in the post-assassination Darnel frame is Gloria Calvery, or that the sobbing light-haired woman to the right of her is Calvery.

Those two women are self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob and Gloria Jeanne Holt, respectively, and the third woman to the right of them is their headscarf-wearing colleague at South-Western Publishing Company, Sharon Simmons, not Karen "Ditzy" Westbrook.

The reason Jacob, Holt and Simmons were misidentified from behind in Zapruder as "Calvery, Hicks, and Reed" for so many years is because they mistakenly told the FBI that they were standing on the south side of Elm Street, when in fact they were standing on the north side -- "near" the Stemmons Freeway sign.

Westbrook is the tallish, light-colored-headscarf-wearing woman three women to the left of big-tall, dark-blue-blouse-and-dark-blue-headscarf-wearing Calvery in Zapruder. She was mislabeled as "Jane Berry" by Robin Unger and Don Roberdeau back in the day.

(Ya gotta scroll down to the labeled-in-yellow Zapruder frame.)

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23565-were-tsbd-employees-jacob-holt-and-simmons-misidentified-as-calvery-hicks-and-reed/page/6/

Get it, Storm Trooper Storing?
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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #391 on: Yesterday at 09:01:36 PM »




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