Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

[Royell Storing]

I'm not sure where Gloria was located... or what she might have seen... but this image from the Muchmore Film needs to be considered regarding her comment about the president being shot at "from the bushes."

    The above refers to what the "hysterical" lady said to DPD Officer Smith. Nobody knows the identity of this woman. I do believe there is something to what this "hysterical" woman told Officer Smith. If you look at the Bill Newman affidavit filed that same day, he said, "I thought the shot had come from The Garden directly behind me, that it was on an Elevation from where I was as I was right on the curb". When Newman says, "The Garden", I take that to mean the bushes that stretch down the Elm St Ext. Those bushes are not "directly" behind Newman, but they are behind him and that area is on higher ground than his position on the Elm St curb. I believe both Bill Newman and that "hysterical" lady were referencing this same area. 

[Dan O'meara]

Above we see the moment Gloria Calvery tells Lovelady, and others on the front steps, that JFK has been shot.
This image was captured approximately 30 seconds after the head shot.
Baker is just arriving near the bottom of the steps.
Shelley has just arrived back at the steps after his run across to the concrete spur where he bumped into Gloria coming the other way.
Truly is still out in the street and is about to turn around.
Karan Hicks climbs the steps.

On another thread, Tom asks - "How did Billy Lovelady mistake 30 seconds for three minutes?"
He might also ask, "How come Shelley made exactly the same mistake?"

However, it is easily argued that it was months later, there was a lot of confusion etc., etc. and it's just a coincidence that both men made the same mistake (just as both men made exactly the same 'mistake' when they forgot to mention their jaunt down the Elm Street extension, hanging around near the railroad yard and entering the west door of the TSBD building in their affidavits).
The aspect of their testimonies that reveals both men are lying, and not just constantly mistaken, is the sequence of events both men testify to.
In their WC testimonies, both men testify that:

1] They are both on the front steps when the shots occur.

2] They remain on the steps until Gloria comes running up and tells everyone about the shooting. This directly contradicts Shelley's affidavit where he states that he ran across the street where he met Gloria. In his WC he states that, after the shots, "I didn't do anything for a minute".

3] Both men testify it took Gloria 3 minutes to reach the steps. Rather than just accept what the witness is telling him, Ball points out that, "Three minutes is a long time". Why does Ball think Lovelady is overestimating how long it took Gloria to reach the steps? We know from Darnell that this 3 minute estimation is utter nonsense.

4] After listening to Gloria both men head across the Elm St Ext to the concrete spur (which both men refer to as a "little, old island", even though it's not an island). They stay here for a minute or so. Both men testify that it takes at least 4 minutes before they start on their trip along the Elm St Ext to the railroad yard.

5] Both men testify that it is after leaving the steps, after Gloria has told them about the shooting, that they turn around and see Baker and Lovelady about to enter the TSBD building. It is this detail that reveals the obvious lie. Darnell reveals that Baker arrives at the steps while Lovelady is still stood on them listening to Gloria. Shelley is stood near the bottom of the steps when Baker almost runs into him. It is one thing for both men to get the time estimates so incredibly wrong, it is quite another for both men to remember things that didn't happen.

[Royell Storing]

      You all claim to have "evidence" supporting your Calvery story, yet here we have several different stories. The newest version has Shelley leaving the steps and Calvery telling him out in the street what has happened to JFK. Shen then runs to the bottom of the steps and "hollers" the horrific details up at Frazier. And then there's the version where Shelley and Lovelady Never walked up the Elm St Ext. They both simply entered the TSBD through the front door. This is what happens when stories/timelines are based on speculation. This all started with the simple story of Calvery running to the bottom of the TSBD Steps and telling Shelley and Lovelady about the condition of JFK. But like a fish story that has been told numerous times, this fish has now grown several fold.  Please submit some real Evidence meriting research. I'd like to look into this.

[Tom Graves]

The newest version has Shelley leaving the steps and Calvery telling him out in the street what has happened to JFK. She then runs to the bottom of the steps and "hollers" the horrific details up at Frazier.

I would be more accurate to say that Shelley (who had been "best man" at Calvery's wedding) and maybe his sidekick, Lovelady, saw (and heard!!!) Calvery as she was bawling like a dying calf in a thunderstorm and running up Elm Street towards the TSBD, and he/they decided to intercept her at or near the "island" to find out what the heck had traumatized her so badly.

Do you have a problem with that?

Who said that her audience on the steps consisted solely of Buell Wesley Frazier, anyway?

The next version [according to Dan O'Meara] is where Shelley and Lovelady never walked up the Elm Street Extension. They both simply entered the TSBD through the front door.

Okay.

This is what happens when stories/timelines are based on speculation.

You mean like your grandiose HUGE GATES CT?

This all started with the simple story of Calvery's running to the bottom of the TSBD Steps and telling Shelley and Lovelady about the condition of JFK. But like a fish story that has been told numerous times, this fish has now grown several-fold.

It's called progress, Comrade Storing.

[Dan O'meara]

      You all claim to have "evidence" supporting your Calvery story, yet here we have several different stories. The newest version has Shelley leaving the steps and Calvery telling him out in the street what has happened to JFK. Shen then runs to the bottom of the steps and "hollers" the horrific details up at Frazier. And then there's the version where Shelley and Lovelady Never walked up the Elm St Ext. They both simply entered the TSBD through the front door. This is what happens when stories/timelines are based on speculation. This all started with the simple story of Calvery running to the bottom of the TSBD Steps and telling Shelley and Lovelady about the condition of JFK. But like a fish story that has been told numerous times, this fish has now grown several fold.  Please submit some real Evidence meriting research. I'd like to look into this.

I accept Tom's identification of Calvery on the steps but I believe Darnell shows Gloria talking to Lovelady whereas Tom does not.
It's two different theories.
That's why you're getting confused.
And don't think you've escaped regarding your nonsense about Smith.

[Royell Storing]

I accept Tom's identification of Calvery on the steps but I believe Darnell shows Gloria talking to Lovelady whereas Tom does not.
It's two different theories.
That's why you're getting confused.
And don't think you've escaped regarding your nonsense about Smith.

    There is absolutely No Evidence connecting Calvery to Officer Smith. Everything provided thus far is Speculation. This is why you are calling them "Theories". A Freudian slip on your part.

[Jake Maxwell]

Correction: the pics are from the Elsie Dorman film...