Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2025, 05:56:03 PM »
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If someone said to me, "Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there was a conspiracy. What would be your best guess as to what it would have looked like?" - then the Mafia scenario would be my best guess. Let it go - unless perhaps you have some deep psychological need to keep asking questions and having the last word on every thread.

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Do you find assuming things for the sake of argument is a real hoot?

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Online Jarrett Smith

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2025, 06:48:28 PM »
If someone said to me, "Let's just assume for the sake of argument that there was a conspiracy. What would be your best guess as to what it would have looked like?" - then the Mafia scenario would be my best guess. Let it go - unless perhaps you have some deep psychological need to keep asking questions and having the last word on every thread.

Ruby stalking/killing Oswald is all the proof I need that Marcello had him killed. My theory is Oswald fired three shots Z157, Z224, Z313, and the fourth shot hit JFK from the front throwing him back. Oswald killed Tippit, and Ruby killed Oswald. Secret service covered their ass for not reacting as they should have, Burkley was in charge of the autopsy thru RFK, JFK's back of head picture was taken during the reconstruction of his head to protect the family.

Thats all

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2025, 07:14:24 PM »
Well, it's been over 60 years, I would hope that at some point you conspiracists could get together and agree on what you believe? How, in some detail, this conspiracy occurred?

Oswald as CIA? KGB? D-2? Mafia hitman? The Birchers? Lansdale? Angleton? Castro? Clay Shaw? Shooters here and shooters there. Coverups here and there. How much more do we need to look into? It's all out there. How many more villains do we need to learn about?

At this point this is an example of "the wish is father to the thought." You simply want to believe in a conspiracy, Oswald couldn't have done this by himself, change history so dramatically. So you look over all of these claims, over all of this information, and pluck those out that support what you want to believe. It's an odd hobby (I plead guilty to some of this) but at this point, after half a century, you've got wishes but no substance.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2025, 07:31:19 PM »
Ruby's stalking/killing Oswald is all the proof I need that Marcello had him killed.

Do you think Ruby's wiring "Little Lynn" $25 bucks at the Western Union Office five minutes before he shot Oswald was part of the plan?
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2025, 07:39:40 PM »
Do you think Ruby's wiring "Little Lynn" $25 bucks at the Western Union Office five minutes before he shot Oswald was part of the plan?

I guess you believe Ruby walked down the ramp as well?

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2025, 07:50:46 PM »
Here we have the x-rays, photo and a film frame of the wound on JFK's head. What more do we need? Even though there is much, much more.

But conspiracists simply don't want to believe it; it contradicts their conspiracy belief. So they want to believe ER doctors, the same people who admitted they weren't sure what they saw, their view of the wound was rushed and in an extreme and confused situation. Read Dr. McClelland's full comments not selected bits of them.

Meanwhile we're supposed to ignore all of this.


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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2025, 07:56:47 PM »
I guess you believe Ruby walked down the ramp as well?

Sure, when the policeman who was supposed to be preventing people from doing that was out in the street, with his back to the ramp, directing traffic so that the "decoy" vehicle, an armored car, could back down it.

Don't you know that?

(Or do you, and you're convinced it was part of "the plan"?)
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2025, 08:45:06 PM »
Sure, when the policeman who was supposed to be preventing people from doing that was out in the street, with his back to the ramp, directing traffic so that the "decoy" vehicle, an armored car, could back down it.

Don't you know that?

(Or do you, and you're convinced it was part of "the plan"?)

Actually, there was another officer watching the ramp who knew Ruby named Don Flusche, and he didn't see Ruby either.
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