Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy

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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2025, 01:15:25 AM »
MTG:

Thanks for your collegial comments.

Verily, Connally is recorded as saying what he said to LIFE magazine, and being shot at Z-234.

I don't understand that. He also said he was pushed forward, bent over by the impact of the shot and immediately incapacitated. That seems to happen at ~Z-295.

That Z-295 shot also jives with the sequence of shots many heard, the well-known "bang...bang, bang" sequence.

While I believe in a small conspiracy, I also believe the JFKA immediately became a litmus test for ideology and agenda (see the Kirk assassination and Trump assassination attempts for how this works out).

There are actually lefties suggesting Trump faked the Butler attempt, and that he was not really grazed by a bullet on the top of his ear. Ideologies and agendas are stronger than truth.

LIFE magazine wanted to LN version to prevail. Did they accurately quote Connally, or lean on the photos they showed him? I dunno. LIFE magazine also reported JFK turned in his seat and faced the TSBD before being shot in the throat as seen...in the Z-film, which only they had.

In brief, I believe my own eyes on the Z-film, and nothing in LIFE magazine, circa 1960s, re the JFKA.

IMHO, caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.


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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2025, 10:28:58 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Single-shot_bolt-action_rifles



Thank you. Click on the link to the Ferret 50 in the page you provided a link to. Then read the first paragraph.

From the Ferret 50 page (first paragraph):

It is a single-shot, meaning it has no magazine, internal or external.


Yes, there are plenty of single-shot bolt action rifles around. My first .22 caliber rifle was one of them. However, as I said previously, the Carcano found on the sixth floor of the TSBD is not one of them because it has a magazine.

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2025, 10:54:11 AM »
Or just call it a bolt action, but it's definitely not a single shot. I had a single shot shotgun - you actually have to stop and reload it each time. Ditto with an old Mauser. I guess "repeater" is the correct term, but we used to reserve that for lever action rifles like the Winchester the Rifleman (Chuck Connors) had on TV.

I had a humorous experience once with a .25 caliber six-shot handgun a friend had modified to be fully automatic. I fired at a target and it just went "blip." I asked "What happened?" He replied "That was it, six shots." Yep, the magazine was empty. I had absolutely no sense of anything other than a single "blip." There was no blip-blip-blip AT ALL. I still can't quite believe it.

Orr says his 1.75 seconds between the first and second shots is enough time for the Carcano to be worked. He really needs to start paying me for all this free publicity.




Your comment made me curious about the rate of fire in the opening scene of The Rifleman TV show.



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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2025, 01:17:04 PM »
Yes, you are correct.

I will henceforth refer to the M-C rifle (which some say is technically a carbine) as "single-shot-per-bolt-action" rifle.

I have fired a lot of different weapons (not hardly an expert), but a lot of readers have not. That is why I was referring to the "single shot bolt action rifle," which, as you point out, is something of a misnomer. 

Many readers probably have seen semi-automatic or even automatic weapons in action, if only online. I was trying to tell them you have to work the bolt action between shots. Not just squeeze the trigger again.

Gov, Connally knew a lot about guns too, and twice referred to bullets entering the cab of the JFK limo as if fired by "automatic" weapons. I thought he might have meant "semi-automatic" weapons, but he repeated the expression "automatic" in his WC and HSCA testimonies.

That is wild.


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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2025, 01:10:30 PM »
LP--

Well, I enjoyed this report from John Orr, and it may be one of the more-plausible JFKA CT's out there.

Of course, we can sub in anybody for the Dal-Tex shooter--Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans, G-2 double agents, OAS assassins and so on. As LHO confederates were never apprehended, and LHO dead by the mobbed-up Jack Ruby's hand with days...who knows?

Interesting that Sam Holland and Amos Euins both said they heard four shots.

I assume the GK smoke-and-bang show then was a diversion...




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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2025, 01:17:35 PM »
LP--

Well, I enjoyed this report from John Orr, and it may be one of the more-plausible JFKA CT's out there.

Of course, we can sub in anybody for the Dal-Tex shooter--Mafia, anti-Castro Cubans, G-2 double agents, OAS assassins and so on. As LHO confederates were never apprehended, and LHO dead by the mobbed-up Jack Ruby's hand with days...who knows?

Interesting that Sam Holland and Amos Euins both said they heard four shots.

I assume the GK smoke-and-bang show then was a diversion...

Did Euins ever say he heard three shots?