Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2025, 01:09:33 PM »
The Mannlicher Carcano bolt action had to be worked between shots. This meant that a good rifleman could get off shots in about 2.3 seconds, minimum. I call that a "single-shot bolt-action rifle."

My read on the Z-film is that Gov. Connally is struck ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313, with the film running at 18 frames per second.

This is the one part of about the JFK debate that I feel somewhat confident about.

But hey---others have other views. So it goes. IMHO, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.



The Mannlicher Carcano bolt action had to be worked between shots. This meant that a good rifleman could get off shots in about 2.3 seconds, minimum. I call that a "single-shot bolt-action rifle."


You can call it whatever you wish. But if you want to be correct and at least make it appear that your opinions might be worth reading, it is a repeater bolt action rifle.
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2025, 03:24:28 PM »
Or just call it a bolt action, but it's definitely not a single shot. I had a single shot shotgun - you actually have to stop and reload it each time. Ditto with an old Mauser. I guess "repeater" is the correct term, but we used to reserve that for lever action rifles like the Winchester the Rifleman (Chuck Connors) had on TV.

I had a humorous experience once with a .25 caliber six-shot handgun a friend had modified to be fully automatic. I fired at a target and it just went "blip." I asked "What happened?" He replied "That was it, six shots." Yep, the magazine was empty. I had absolutely no sense of anything other than a single "blip." There was no blip-blip-blip AT ALL. I still can't quite believe it.

Orr says his 1.75 seconds between the first and second shots is enough time for the Carcano to be worked. He really needs to start paying me for all this free publicity.

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2025, 03:34:32 PM »
Orr says his 1.75 seconds between the first and second shots is enough time for the Carcano to be worked.

Based on a 2020 analysis, by Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce, of the conscious reaction times of seven earwitnesses (including JFK and Jackie) to the sounds of the first shot, it's much more likely that former Marine sharpshooter Oswald took 5.50 seconds between his first (missing-everything) shot and his second (CE-399) shot in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2025, 03:55:19 PM »
Believe it or not, there is actually a scholarly, peer-reviewed journal called "The Journal of Perpetrator Research" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/. My new favorite name - it's sounds like something out of Monty Python skit. The Minister of Silly Perpetrator Research.

Nevertheless, in 2019 Dr, Richard Reiman, Professor of History at South Georgia State College, published a 27-page article entitled "Six ‘Shots’ in Dallas: ‘Framing’ the Perpetrator of the Kennedy Assassination through the Zapruder Film, 1963–2013" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/articles/39/files/submission/proof/39-1-307-1-10-20191018.pdf.

It's a completely LN-supportive piece. He actually refers to the Z film as a Rorschach test and the thesis is basically how the film has been made to say whatever anyone wants over the decades. He places the first shot very early, when Rosemary Willis reacts, has JFK being hit around Z224, and JBC's first obvious reactions around Z235 - but with JBC's "lapel flip" at Z224 being proof he was actually hit at the same time as JFK.

And on it goes. Rorschach test.

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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2025, 04:07:45 PM »
Believe it or not, there is actually a scholarly, peer-reviewed journal called "The Journal of Perpetrator Research" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/. My new favorite name - it's sounds like something out of Monty Python skit. The Minister of Silly Perpetrator Research.

Nevertheless, in 2019 Dr, Richard Reiman, Professor of History at South Georgia State College, published a 27-page article entitled "Six ‘Shots’ in Dallas: ‘Framing’ the Perpetrator of the Kennedy Assassination through the Zapruder Film, 1963–2013" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/articles/39/files/submission/proof/39-1-307-1-10-20191018.pdf.

It's a completely LN-supportive piece. He actually refers to the Z film as a Rorschach test and the thesis is basically how the film has been made to say whatever anyone wants over the decades. He places the first shot very early, when Rosemary Willis reacts, has JFK being hit around Z224, and JBC's first obvious reactions around Z235 - but with JBC's "lapel flip" at Z224 being proof he was actually hit at the same time as JFK.

And on it goes. Rorschach test.

It was probably just a firecracker.
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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2025, 04:13:03 PM »
Believe it or not, there is actually a scholarly, peer-reviewed journal called "The Journal of Perpetrator Research" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/. My new favorite name - it's sounds like something out of Monty Python skit. The Minister of Silly Perpetrator Research.

Nevertheless, in 2019 Dr, Richard Reiman, Professor of History at South Georgia State College, published a 27-page article entitled "Six ‘Shots’ in Dallas: ‘Framing’ the Perpetrator of the Kennedy Assassination through the Zapruder Film, 1963–2013" - https://jpr.winchesteruniversitypress.org/articles/39/files/submission/proof/39-1-307-1-10-20191018.pdf.

It's a completely LN-supportive piece. He actually refers to the Z film as a Rorschach test and the thesis is basically how the film has been made to say whatever anyone wants over the decades. He places the first shot very early, when Rosemary Willis reacts, has JFK being hit around Z224, and JBC's first obvious reactions around Z235 - but with JBC's "lapel flip" at Z224 being proof he was actually hit at the same time as JFK.

Which proves Reiman doesn't know what he's talking about or is just so biased that he won't process evidence that destroys his version of the shooting.

He ignores the scientifically tested blur-episodes evidence. He ignores Connally's unequivocal insistence that he was not hit before Z229. He ignores the fact that lapels cannot magically flip up and down in just 55 milliseconds, and that the "lapel flip" is an optical illusion caused by reflective sunlight (as David Wimp has demonstrated). He ignores the fact that there was no hole through JFK's tie and no fabric missing from the shirt slits, which abjectly destroys the SBT in one fell swoop. He ignores JFK and Jackie's Z200-207 reactions, which prove JFK was hit by the Z186-190 shot. He ignores the fact that JFK's Z224-225 reaction proves he was hit no later than Z220. He ignores JFK's dramatic Z226-232 reaction, which proves he was hit twice before his head was hit. And on and on we could go.

The Zapruder film is indeed a type of Rorschach test, and Reiman and other WC believers keep proving that they are unable to face reality when viewing the film.



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Re: Why I Believe in the JFKA Conspiracy
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2025, 04:18:26 PM »
Which proves Reiman doesn't know what he's talking about or is just so biased that he won't process evidence that destroys his version of the shooting.

He ignores the scientifically tested blur-episodes evidence. He ignores Connally's unequivocal insistence that he was not hit before Z229. He ignores the fact that lapels cannot magically flip up and down in just 55 milliseconds, and that the "lapel flip" is an optical illusion caused by reflective sunlight (as David Wimp has demonstrated). He ignores the fact that there was no hole through JFK's tie and no fabric missing from the shirt slits, which abjectly destroys the SBT in one fell swoop. He ignores JFK and Jackie's Z200-207 reactions, which prove JFK was hit by the Z186-190 shot. He ignores the fact that JFK's Z224-225 reaction proves he was hit no later than Z220. He ignores JFK's dramatic Z226-232 reaction, which proves he was hit twice before his head was hit. And on and on we could go.

The Zapruder film is indeed a type of Rorschach test, and Reiman and other WC believers keep proving that they are unable to face reality when viewing the film.

Dear Comrade Griffith,

I'm guessing "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin pays you quite a lot.

Am I right?

-- Tom