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JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« on: September 13, 2025, 08:39:53 PM »
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Hi all

I'm a long time reader/student of the assassination and I've read all of Groden's works cept the last one JFK Absolute Proof. Its far too expensive for me being on a very fixed income. Would someone here know of a source for possibly donating a copy to me? Thank you. if this is not allowed I apologize to the moderator.

Thanks

Gary
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JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2025, 09:20:52 PM »
Hi all

I'm a long time reader/student of the assassination and I've read all of Groden's works cept the last one JFK Absolute Proof. Its far to expensive for me being on a very fixed income. Would someone here know of a source for possibly donating a copy to me? Thank you is this is now allowed I apologize to the moderator.

Thanks

Gary
Wow, that is expensive. $100 on Amazon (new from Conspiracy Publications!) and more than that on eBay. I checked Advanced Book Exchange, a consortium of hundreds of used booksellers that I've used to find dozens of obscure books, and they don't have one single copy.

The video below is goofy Jess Connell (she is a hoot - I like her) discussing the book she got directly from Groden and her visit with him and his wife. The video is only three months old. She says if you email the Grodens directly at janetclair29@gmail.com, they will give you a discount. Perhaps if you explain your situation, they will send you a freebie or at least a greatly discounted one?



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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2025, 01:03:33 AM »
Thank you very much my friend

I will email asap. I'm quite interested in this volume.

thanks again
Gary

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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2025, 01:01:16 PM »
Hi all

I'm a long time reader/student of the assassination and I've read all of Groden's works cept the last one JFK Absolute Proof. Its far to expensive for me being on a very fixed income. Would someone here know of a source for possibly donating a copy to me? Thank you. if this is not allowed I apologize to the moderator.

Thanks. Gary

Gary, Robert Groden's books and videos are very much a mixed bag. Much of what he says is valid, but nearly an equal amount of what he says is invalid or questionable. His books and videos just contain too many errors for my tolerance level, which is why I rarely cite his works.

I say this as someone who has talked with Robert Groden and who respects his devotion to finding the truth. Robert is a decent guy who has devoted most of his adult life to researching the JFK case. If you can get a copy of JFK: Absolute Proof for free, that'd be great, but the book is not worth anywhere near $100. 



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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2025, 03:53:32 PM »
Don't waste your time. This particular book contains an utterly false story about one of the other employees of the Texas School Book Depository as well as a COMPLETELY FAKE photo Groden is attempting to pass off as an authentic depiction of what happened during JFK's autopsy. He should be ashamed of himself.

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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2025, 08:25:29 PM »
There is absolute proof in the JFK case. We have absolute proof that the SBT is impossible, i.e., the fact that JFK's tie had no hole through it, that there was only a nick on the outer surface of the tie knot and the nick was not on the edge of the knot, and that photographic evidence proves his tie was centered in the middle of the collar.

We have absolute proof that the autopsy brain photos are not of JFK's brain, i.e., the autopsy skull x-rays show a substantial amount of brain missing from the right half of the brain, but the brain photos show no more than 1-2 ounces of brain tissue missing. We also know that pieces of JFK's brain were splattered onto 16 surfaces, including the windshields of two of the trailing patrolmen and the follow-up car. No rational person can believe that all that brain matter weighed only 2 ounces, especially since the skull x-rays show a large portion of the right brain missing.

We have absolute proof that FMJ ammo did not leave the bullet fragments in JFK's skull that are seen on the autopsy skull x-rays, especially the fragments on the outer table of the skull, which are several inches above the rear head entry wound. Forensic experts universally tell us that FMJ bullets will never shatter into dozens of fragments when they strike bone. One of the leading forensic experts of the 20th and 21st centuries, Dr. Vincent DiMaio, even stated that if an x-ray shows numerous small fragments, this rules out FMJ ammo as the ammo that left the fragments.


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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2025, 09:12:22 PM »
Golly, you folks have just about talked me into ordering the book myself!

According to Wikipedia, "Groden has stated that his next book, JFK: Absolute Proof, documents his interview with a Dealey Plaza witness who was standing with Lee Harvey Oswald on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository when they both heard shots being fired outside."

Here is a post-publication 2-hour presentation and interview with Groden in which, as far as I can tell, he never even mentions his bombshell new witness.

Oh, phooey, I was kind of hoping the new witness standing with Oswald on the second floor of the TSBD was Ruth Paine, but it turns out to be Mrs. Reid. Here is Jim DiEugenio's unenthusiastic 2014 review of the book in which he explains how Groden went awry: https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/groden-robert-absolute-proof.

When DiEugenio is unenthusiastic about a CT book and thanks Greg Parker (!) for exposing the flaws, you know you're in uncharted territory. He does recommend the book for its extensive photos, and I have found Groden's Search for Lee Harvey Oswald useful for that reason.


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Re: JFK Absolute Proof By Robert Groden
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2025, 09:31:29 PM »
thanks my friend

You have given me much to think about. I've read and studied dozens of authors and researchers along with Groden and I know some of his leaps, Like the shooter in the storm drain. Would still love to obtain the latest book tho.

Gary

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