On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman

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Online Fred Litwin

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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
« on: September 09, 2025, 01:07:33 PM »
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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman

Dr. Zimmerman reviewed JFK's autopsy X-Rays and Photographs in 2004 with Larry Sturdivan. I have also included his notes from his visit to the archives.


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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2025, 03:58:39 PM »
As I document in "The Dented Shell: Hard Evidence of Conspiracy in the JFK Assassination," Zimmerman misrepresents the results of his FMJ-shell-denting experiment, in which he tried to show that CE 543 could have been used to fire a bullet on the day of the shooting.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ihue8a0GmN_Ptl38bPjpu1F99nqU0Z6f/view

Not one of Zimmerman's 10 dented shells is as dented as CE 543. The comparison photo of CE 543 that Zimmerman displays below the photo of his shells
shows CE 543 from an angle that minimizes its dent.

He does not address the issue of the marks on the bottom of CE 543, marks that were not found on the two other shells nor on any of the shells that were ejected from the rifle in the WC's test firings.

He does not address the fact that CE 543 does not have the alleged murder weapon’s characteristic chambering mark on its side but that the other shells do.

He does not address the fact that CE 543 could not have been marked by the alleged murder weapon’s magazine follower during the assassination because it was not the last shell in the clip.


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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2025, 08:12:22 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/on-the-trail-of-delusion-episode-21-with-dr-chad-zimmerman

On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman

Dr. Zimmerman reviewed JFK's autopsy X-Rays and Photographs in 2004 with Larry Sturdivan. I have also included his notes from his visit to the archives.

I'll watch that tonight.

I went looking for Zimmerman's stuff on the JFK assassination a month ago. Couldn't find any of it. I was looking for his image of the rifle shell with the dent that he had made in it by ejecting the shell from his Carcano rifle. I recall that the dent was not as pronounced as that in CE-543. The HSCA firearms panel did replicate the dent in CE-543 using Oswald's Carcano.


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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2025, 09:25:50 PM »
“The cartridges recovered with Lee Harvy Oswald's rifle were part of a batch made in 1949 by the Western Cartridge Company in East Alton Il. They were made for the government of Greece as part of US military aid during the Greek civil war. They were commonly available on the surplus market during the early 1960's. They were packed in typical American 20 round boxes of white cardboard." https://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/ammo/history.html (Stevens Institute of Technology, “Carcano Ammunition - History & Headstamps”).

Is that correct, or were they part of a 4,000,000-round lot made for the Marines (possibly as a front for the CIA!) in 1954, as other sources suggest?

Anyway, just some random thoughts based on my experience with guns and reloading in the early 1970s:

1. Reloaded ammunition was far cheaper than factory fresh. It was often sold by gun stores in plastic bags or other non-standard packaging. On the other hand, military surplus ammo wasn't nearly as expensive either.

2. Even if you bought factory or military ammo, the empty shells could be sold or traded to gun shops and reloaders.

3. Dented shells that could not be reloaded were often used (including by me) for dry firing.

4. Reloaded ammunition definitely produced more duds than factory ammo. Lack of velocity and tumbling were not uncommon. Meticulous as I try to be, I abandoned reloading for this reason. I always considered military surplus a bit iffy as well, although I have limited experience.

I sometimes wonder if these considerations might have something to do with the dented shell, the lack of other ammunition found among Oswald’s possessions and/or the witnesses who said the first shot sounded different. I also recall reading that Oswald carried a little white box from the department store in Ft. Worth where Marguerite had once worked that “just happened” to hold exactly four Carcano shells.

I’m still liking the Phantom Shot theory - one dry firing shell with dented lip when the rifle was retrieved from Ruth's garage, two shots fired, fourth unfired bullet in clip. However, I claim no expertise in this area. I find it interesting only in terms of trying to think through exactly what Oswald did, even from a LN perspective.
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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 21 with Dr. Chad Zimmerman
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2025, 09:25:50 PM »