Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?

[Royell Storing]

    TODD - All you need to do is watch the recently discovered Darnell Film Snippet to see where "No Glove Cop" is positioned inside the railroad yard. Go to YOU TUBE and search - "The Full Darnell Snippet" by - "The JFK Theorist" (23:32 - 23:40). This is not complicated. 

[Mitch Todd]

    TODD - All you need to do is watch the recently discovered Darnell Film Snippet to see where "No Glove Cop" is positioned inside the railroad yard. Go to YOU TUBE and search - "The Full Darnell Snippet" by - "The JFK Theorist" (23:32 - 23:40). This is not complicated.

You saw the screencaps I just posted of Harkness and the MC. Those are in fact from the exact Youtube video you keep referring us to.

I'm not the one who is confused.

[Royell Storing]

You saw the screencaps I just posted of Harkness and the MC. Those are in fact from the exact Youtube video you keep referring us to.

I'm not the one who is confused.

   What you posted does not show the Darnell footage of the Elm St Extension. That Elm St Extension footage leads directly to your posted still frames. It shows us exactly where "No Glove Cop" and Officer Harkness are. If you are aware of this footage, why are you avoiding it?

[Mitch Todd]

   What you posted does not show the Darnell footage of the Elm St Extension. That Elm St Extension footage leads directly to your posted still frames. It shows us exactly where "No Glove Cop" and Officer Harkness are. If you are aware of this footage, why are you avoiding it?

You said that I should look at "'The Full Darnell Snippet' by - 'The JFK Theorist' (23:32 - 23:40)." The screen caps I posted are taken from the 23:34-23:36 interval of the same video. That is, they come from within the interval you pointed to. Do you not even know what film you are looking at?

Harkness and the MC do not appear in the part pointing down the Elm St extension (23:32-23:34), so it cannot not itself show "exactly where [they] are." It does show that Darnell is south of the TSBD, about where the ESX curb would be if it continued straight west. Just like I showed in the annotated aerial photo of the RR yard. This puts him, Harkness, and the MC south of where you so desperately want to believe.

[Royell Storing]

You said that I should look at "'The Full Darnell Snippet' by - 'The JFK Theorist' (23:32 - 23:40)." The screen caps I posted are taken from the 23:34-23:36 interval of the same video. That is, they come from within the interval you pointed to. Do you not even know what film you are looking at?

Harkness and the MC do not appear in the part pointing down the Elm St extension (23:32-23:34), so it cannot not itself show "exactly where [they] are." It does show that Darnell is south of the TSBD, about where the ESX curb would be if it continued straight west. Just like I showed in the annotated aerial photo of the RR yard. This puts him, Harkness, and the MC south of where you so desperately want to believe.

     It is the ENTIRE Darnell Film Snippet that has to be viewed in order to appreciate what we are seeing. Also, a sound foundation regarding the Elm Street Extension is required. You obviously do Not have this. This is why you are unable to connect-the-dots.
     After making his 12:36 police radio transmission, Officer Harkness was filmed by Martin as he took Amos Euins down the "wide open" Elm St Ext on the back of his 3 wheel motorcycle. Harkness then loaded Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. Euins sitting in the back of Sawyer's car, with the Harkness motorcycle double parked next to that same car, was filmed by National Geographic. The Elm St Ext can be seen to be STILL WIDE OPEN on this Nat Geo film footage. The Darnell Film shows the Elm St Ext to be JAMMED WITH PEOPLE at the very same time that Officer Harkness and "No Glove Cop" are filmed together. This timestamps Harkness and "No Glove Cop" being filmed together on the Darnell Film at 12:38. Officer Haywood made a 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle that was parked at the Elm St curb near the Triple Underpass. Haygood's 12:35 radio transmission means the "No Glove Cop" on the 12:38 Darnell Film snippet can NOT be Officer Haygood. Which begs the question. Who is this "No Glove Cop" that was filmed with Officer Harkness?   

[Mitch Todd]

     It is the ENTIRE Darnell Film Snippet that has to be viewed in order to appreciate what we are seeing. Also, a sound foundation regarding the Elm Street Extension is required. You obviously do Not have this. This is why you are unable to connect-the-dots.
     After making his 12:36 police radio transmission, Officer Harkness was filmed by Martin as he took Amos Euins down the "wide open" Elm St Ext on the back of his 3 wheel motorcycle. Harkness then loaded Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. Euins sitting in the back of Sawyer's car, with the Harkness motorcycle double parked next to that same car, was filmed by National Geographic. The Elm St Ext can be seen to be STILL WIDE OPEN on this Nat Geo film footage. The Darnell Film shows the Elm St Ext to be JAMMED WITH PEOPLE at the very same time that Officer Harkness and "No Glove Cop" are filmed together. This timestamps Harkness and "No Glove Cop" being filmed together on the Darnell Film at 12:38. Officer Haywood made a 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle that was parked at the Elm St curb near the Triple Underpass. Haygood's 12:35 radio transmission means the "No Glove Cop" on the 12:38 Darnell Film snippet can NOT be Officer Haygood. Which begs the question. Who is this "No Glove Cop" that was filmed with Officer Harkness?

RS: It is the ENTIRE Darnell Film Snippet that has to be viewed in order to appreciate what we are seeing. Also, a sound foundation regarding the Elm Street Extension is required. You obviously do Not have this. This is why you are unable to connect-the-dots.

I've already addressed both parts of the snipped. That is, the "ENTIRE" thing. I've already demonstrated that Darnell's position is south of the TSBD and to the west of it, along the second RR spur. The annotated photo I've twice posted shows this, and why. It also shows a parked car and a line of bollards between Harkness and the motorcycle cop, which puts Harkness south of the dirt road. Harkness position is then almost perfectly due west of the place he encountered Euins near the SE corner of the TSBD annex.


RS: was filmed by National Geographic.

NatGeo didn't have a cameraman in Dealey Plaza that day. No idea where you got this.


The Elm St Ext can be seen to be STILL WIDE OPEN on this Nat Geo film footage. The Darnell Film shows the Elm St Ext to be JAMMED WITH PEOPLE at the very same time that Officer Harkness and "No Glove Cop" are filmed together.

The area in the Darnell film where you see the crowd of people clustered together is the triangular area bounded on the south by the rear of the pergola, on the west be the first RR spur, and on the north/east by the dirt road where it turns and starts running to the northwest. This puts them somewhat to the west and south of the annex. Darnell is filming this from a position west of this triangular area. Martin filmed Harnkess driving down the ESX from a position directly south of the annex. So the crowd is beween Darnell's and Martin's positions. Which is behind Martin while when was filming, so you wouldn't see that big crowd in his shot. You still do see a small crowd standing in the street along the south side of the ESX, but they likely had enough sense not to bock the roadway with a police officer coming through.   

[Royell Storing]

   After 62+ years, I can understand you're having problems accepting that which has been right in front of you. But there it is, right there. The Elm St Ext is jammed with people. They have: (1) drifted down from the TSBD, (2) to Inspector Sawyer's car with Euins inside, and, (3) now stand parallel to the loading dock. This is ALL IMAGE DOCUMENTED starting with the Allen Photo taken in front of the TSBD. That photo shows these very same people beginning their journey as they mill around there. Just focus your attention on that Old Man wearing the screwy hat. He's the guy the kids are kinda heckling.  These people are nowhere close to the rear of the Pergola. That's just flat-out wrong.
   It's  evident that you are not familiar with the Nat Geo clip I referenced. You could fire a canon ball down the Elm St Ext on this footage. This footage shows how clear the Elm Ext is at that point in time. And this Nat Geo clip also shows Officer Harkness's #99 3 wheel motorcycle double parked alongside Inspector Sawyer's car. Inspector Sawyer did Not arrive at the TSBD until 12:35. Officer Harkness made a 12:36 radio transmission that he was bringing Euins to the TSBD. And we see the Elm St Ext is wide open at 12:37 on this Nat Geo film snippet. By 12:38 the Elm St Ext is jammed packed due to the people filtering down from the TSBD. This is also when we see Harkness and the "No Glove Cop" together on the Darnell film.
   It is physically impossible for Officer Harkness and Officer Haygood to be filmed together by Darnell.  Haygood made a 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle over by the Triple Underpass. Harkness made his 12:36 radio transmission mentioned above. That "No Glove Cop" is not Officer Haygood. I have proven this via Image Evidence and the Documented DPD Radio Transmissions by Haygood and Harkness. This is a slam dunk.

[Tommy Shanks]

   After 62+ years, I can understand you're having problems accepting that which has been right in front of you.

You're the one having problems. Mitch Todd just deflated your nonsensical "Elm Street Extension" balloon.