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There seems to be a problem with Officer Baker's testimony.
Royell Storing:
Remember that some of these SS guys were hung over. They coulda been trying to blow breakfast.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 05, 2025, 03:12:30 AM --- Remember that some of these SS guys were hung over. They coulda been trying to blow breakfast.
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Maybe it was that gosh-darned Houston Street - Elm Street hairpin turn that launched them over the edge both literally and figuratively!
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 05, 2025, 03:03:21 AM ---Tyler and you are full of highly pungent beans.
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And what are you full of?
--- Quote ---Secret Service Agent George Hickey has started leaning over and looking down at the pavement by Z-148, someone on the passengers' side of the Secret Service follow-up car (Kenny O'Donnell or Secret Service Agent Glenn Bennett) has started leaning over to his right by Z-148 to see if JFK's okay, and Roy Kellerman, riding shotgun in the limo, has begun leaning over and looking down and/or behind himself by Z-148.
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Surely you must provide some kind of testimony or statement from the actual men you are putting forward in your post, to support your bananas idea.
You do not get to decide what these men are doing. You must let them speak for themselves.
If you cannot provide any such testimony/statement then you must concede that you are full of sh^t.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 05, 2025, 01:15:05 AM --- What you are describing with respect to the JFK Limo/Thornton Sign would also line up with the Willis Girl slowing up/stopping her run.
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No. it doesn't.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 05, 2025, 03:03:21 AM ---Tyler and you are full of highly pungent beans.
Secret Service Agent George Hickey has started leaning over and looking down at the pavement by Z-148, someone on the passengers' side of the Secret Service follow-up car (Kenny O'Donnell or Secret Service Agent Glenn Bennett) has started leaning over to his right by Z-148 to see if JFK's okay, and Roy Kellerman, riding shotgun in the limo, has begun leaning over and looking down and/or behind himself by Z-148.
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
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I must agree with Dan - no, please, not THAT!!! - that you must be psychic if you can discern all that. I don't even SEE it. (Again I link for the benefit of others this handy frame-by-frame table of Z frames: https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/.) Moreover, doesn't it stand to reason that, having just made the turn onto Elm, they WOULD be looking around? Kellerman told the WC he first heard "a report like a firecracker pop" when they had just passed the sign and were "out in the open." Hickey said the limo had "started down an incline toward the overpass" when a sound caught his attention: "I stood up and looked to my right and rear in an attempt to identify it. Nothing caught my attention except people shouting and cheering." Bennett said he first heard a sound like a firecracker at the exact time a shot hit JFK in the back. Like Hickey, he said the limo had started down a grade and the crowd was "very sparse." O'Donnell sajd they had "turned on the grass plot" and there were "four or five people there." Whatever this adds up to, it doesn't sound like a pre-Z148 shot.
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