There seems to be a problem with Officer Baker's testimony.

[Royell Storing]

  There's No Evidence of an alleged "early" shot. Some of you are basically playing your own game of "Charades" as you apply your own personal interpretation of the actions of people viewing the JFK Motorcade. That is Not Evidence. But let's say there was an early shot at Z113. With the Kill Shot being at Z313, you are talking about the JFK Limo being under steady fire for 11+ seconds. Yet, ALL of those SS Agents did absolutely nothing over that 11+ seconds time period to stop the assassin(s)? Seriously? If you're gonna claim an early shot, you are then proving a Conspiracy based on the inaction of the entire SS while under consistent fire for 11+ seconds.   

[Dan O'meara]

  There's No Evidence of an alleged "early" shot. Some of you are basically playing your own game of "Charades" as you apply your own personal interpretation of the actions of people viewing the JFK Motorcade. That is Not Evidence. But let's say there was an early shot at Z113. With the Kill Shot being at Z313, you are talking about the JFK Limo being under steady fire for 11+ seconds. Yet, ALL of those SS Agents did absolutely nothing over that 11+ seconds time period to stop the assassin(s)? Seriously? If you're gonna claim an early shot, you are then proving a Conspiracy based on the inaction of the entire SS while under consistent fire for 11+ seconds.

Tyler makes the same point about the SS agents:

"In the Zapruder film we see no sudden reactions from the Secret Service agents at all from Z133-Z195 which leads me to believe that there were no shots at all until after Z180.  Several people standing at the lamppost by the Thornton freeway sign specifically said that the limo had either passed them or was in front of them at the first shot, which again is after Z180, thus eliminating any possibility of an early shot before that point.  Hugh Betzner took a photo at exactly Z186 and said the first shot was fired as he wound his film on, thus ruling out an earlier shot."

This is also the same point outlined in the OP of "The First Shot" thread which debunks, beyond any reasonable doubt, the notion of an early missed shot.

[Royell Storing]

Tyler makes the same point about the SS agents:

"In the Zapruder film we see no sudden reactions from the Secret Service agents at all from Z133-Z195 which leads me to believe that there were no shots at all until after Z180.  Several people standing at the lamppost by the Thornton freeway sign specifically said that the limo had either passed them or was in front of them at the first shot, which again is after Z180, thus eliminating any possibility of an early shot before that point.  Hugh Betzner took a photo at exactly Z186 and said the first shot was fired as he wound his film on, thus ruling out an earlier shot."

This is also the same point outlined in the OP of "The First Shot" thread which debunks, beyond any reasonable doubt, the notion of an early missed shot.

   What you are describing with respect to the JFK Limo/Thornton Sign would also line up with the Willis Girl slowing up/stopping her run.

[Tom Graves]

Mark Tyler sez: "In the Zapruder film we see no sudden reactions from the Secret Service agents at all from Z133-Z195 which leads me to believe that there were no shots at all until after Z180.

Tyler and you are full of highly pungent beans.

Secret Service Agent George Hickey has started leaning over and looking down at the pavement by Z-148, someone on the passengers' side of the Secret Service follow-up car (Kenny O'Donnell or Secret Service Agent Glenn Bennett) has started leaning over to his right by Z-148 to see if JFK's okay, and Roy Kellerman, riding shotgun in the limo, has begun leaning over and looking down and/or behind himself by Z-148.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

[Royell Storing]

 Remember that some of these SS guys were hung over. They coulda been trying to blow breakfast.

[Tom Graves]

Remember that some of these SS guys were hung over. They coulda been trying to blow breakfast.

Maybe it was that gosh-darned Houston Street - Elm Street hairpin turn that launched them over the edge both literally and figuratively!

[Dan O'meara]

Tyler and you are full of highly pungent beans.

And what are you full of?

Secret Service Agent George Hickey has started leaning over and looking down at the pavement by Z-148, someone on the passengers' side of the Secret Service follow-up car (Kenny O'Donnell or Secret Service Agent Glenn Bennett) has started leaning over to his right by Z-148 to see if JFK's okay, and Roy Kellerman, riding shotgun in the limo, has begun leaning over and looking down and/or behind himself by Z-148.

Surely you must provide some kind of testimony or statement from the actual men you are putting forward in your post, to support your bananas idea.
You do not get to decide what these men are doing. You must let them speak for themselves.
If you cannot provide any such testimony/statement then you must concede that you are full of sh^t.