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If they weren't already brainwashed, what would convince CTs that LHO did it?
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 03, 2025, 12:03:20 AM ---Comrade Storing,
People who, unlike you, can think rationally and scientifically, are willing to modify (and in some cases completely abandon) their hypotheses based on the introduction of new evidence.
Max Holland was right to point out that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot occurred before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133. He thought it happened at hypothetical (as in not-caught-on-film-because-Zapruder-wasn't-filming-at-the-time) "Z-107," but Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce showed in a journal article published in 2020 that it was more likely at hypothetical "Z-124," as indicated, for example, by the fact that in Z-141, Rosemary Willis isn't looking at the limo passing by her, but has already begun looking back towards the TSBD.
https://www.acsr.org/post/estimating-occult-timing-of-surprise-gunshot-sounds-in-silent-film-via-observed-start-of-human-vol
And, as I've recently shown you, it's possible that James Tague was struck by a bullet fragment from the fatal head shot.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcnCy17Hwqqw3zBCK7ls8peA3DxmVzhk/view?fbclid=IwY2xjawMhX_FleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE4VkU5OWFad0pmb1lWbEZuAR5CqzVfS_kwwhC_esko7HReWTqLEm4HwHGKLg7IekI23kvFroXG0TSxU8jJ7A_aem_AKz6PqzUnM04cOaEZOVC6g
-- Tom
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So Holland gets a world wide broadcast to trumpet his Bogus LN Hypothesis and then he goes Harpo Marx when it gets dis-proven? The theory of Oswald standing upright and firing Downward through a 1/4 open window issa DQ right outta the blocks anyway. And please refrain from the "possible" stuff. It's also "possible" that there were shooter(s) all over Dealey Plaza. Let's not play that game.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 03, 2025, 02:07:08 AM --- So, Holland gets a world-wide broadcast to trumpet his Bogus LN Hypothesis and then he goes Harpo Marx when it gets dis-proven? The theory of Oswald standing upright and firing Downward through a 1/4 open window issa DQ right outta the blocks anyway.
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Comrade Storing,
Max Holland DESERVED that world-wide BROADCAST to promote his correct IDEA that Zapruder PAUSED his filming of the MOTORCADE for SEVENTEEN seconds, that Oswald's FIRST, missing-everything SHOT occurred SHORTLY before Zapruder RESUMED filming AT Z-133, that the shot WAS, by definition, a steeply-downward-angled ONE, that the UNUSUAL ejection PATTERN of the three shells FOUND on the Sniper's Nest FLOOR, support the IDEA that Oswald was standing and awkwardly LEANING forward when he FIRED that first, missing-everything, SHOT, which IS, by THE way, supported by footage from the Robert Hughes CLIP as well as BY the fact that several WITNESSES reported that the first SHOT sounded somewhat MUFFLED compared to the second AND third shots.
ETC., ETC.
-- Tom
Royell Storing:
You have No Proof of specifically when the 1st shot was fired. Congratulations on your now qualifying for membership in the Max Holland Dumb Bunny Club.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 03, 2025, 02:59:45 AM ---You have No Proof of specifically when the 1st shot was fired. Congratulations on your now qualifying for membership in the Max Holland Dumb Bunny Club.
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Dear Comrade STORING,
The FACT that JFK started consciously REACTING to the SOUNDS of the first SHOT by Z-144, the FACT that Jackie started consciously REACTING to said SOUNDS by Z-145, the FACT that JBC started consciously REACTING to said sounds by Z-151, the FACT that Nellie Connally started consciously REACTING to said sounds by Z-146, the FACT that Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman started consciously REACTING to said sounds by Z-148, the FACT that Secret Service Agent George Hickey started REACTING to said sounds by Z-144, and the fact that Rosemary Willis started REACTING to said sounds by Z-141, PLUS the FACT that assassination witness Marvin Faye Chism reported seeing a bullet hit near the passenger's side of the limo SHORTLY after it had turned onto Elm Street, etc., etc, when taken TOGETHER prove that a very EARLY, missing-EVERYTHING shot was FIRED before Zapruder had resumed FILMING at Z-133.
-- Tom
PS You never did answer my question:
How does your tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theory belief that the evil, evil CIA or [fill in the blank] killed JFK tie in with your love of The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx")?
Royell Storing:
For all you know they were reacting to the sound(s) of DPD motorcycle backfire(s). Like Max, you have No Proof. None.
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