Released File Shows J. Edgar Hoover Acknowledged Large Rear Head Wound

[Tom Graves]

"Aww ... never mind" is precisely the rational response to this forum in its entirety. When was the last discussion here that was actually worth having from either a CT or LN perspective? Post something that's moderately substantive and the regulars are struck dumb. I don't know how many threads I've started to respond to out of sheer boredom and then had precisely that response: Aww ... never mind. I actually miss Team Sock Puppet, ghastly as that thought is even to me. Ditto for the Ed Forum - it's barely worth lurking for three minutes a day. Perhaps the JFKA is simply dead? It's all just ... just ... aww, never mind (although B-O-R-I-N-G is certainly the term that springs to mind).

Dear Lance,

Do YOU think Knott Lab's simulation was accurate?

Comrade Storing sure does.

-- Tom

[Lance Payette]

I would further note that Hoover's testimony was in the context of expanding on his remark that the doctors at Parkland had originally thought the throat wound was a frontal wound. He wasn't purporting to discuss the head wound per se. I see absolutely no significance to the alteration of his testimony. As previously noted, deponents are always afforded an opportunity to make changes to the transcript. Given all the medical evidence regarding the head wound, I see absolutely no significance to a clarification from "the back of the skull" to the more accurate "portions of the skull." The notion that the change was made because "OH, MY GOD, THE DODDERING OLD DIRECTOR LET THE TRUTH SLIP!!!" is just conspiracy nonsense of the first magnitude.

Sibert and O'Neill were both clear that the "surgery to the head area" in their memorandum was simply reporting a remark Humes had made while examining the body. They both thought he might have made the remark because a large piece of skull was obviously missing. O'Neill was a firm WC/LN supporter. While Sibert seems to have been more CT-oriented, I just read both of their ARRB testimonies and didn't see anything that would have really startled the WC even though Horne was Rather Obvious - to put it mildly - in his effort to get Sibert to say what he wanted him to say.

This is all just all-too-typical CT grasping at straws. "OH, MY GOD, THEY ALTERED HOOVER'S TESTIMONY!!!" Big yawn.

[Lance Payette]

Dear Lance,

Do YOU think Knott Lab's simulation was accurate?

Comrade Storing sure does.

-- Tom

If the guy who commissioned the study says to ignore it, which he now does, I'll go with that. Supposedly he and Larry Schnapf will be publishing a new and improved analysis. There are just so many variables that can never be known with absolute precision that I view any purported analysis with a skeptical eye. Virtually every analysis, you will note, ends up being AWFULLY CLOSE to "Yeah, they all came from the sniper's nest." That was one of my problems with Cliff Varnell's analysis of the holes in the clothing and the throat wound - in his analysis, neither entry has an exit and the two supposed entries "just happen" to line up AWFULLY CLOSE.

[Royell Storing]

"Aww ... never mind" is precisely the rational response to this forum in its entirety. When was the last discussion here that was actually worth having from either a CT or LN perspective? Post something that's moderately substantive and the regulars are struck dumb. I don't know how many threads I've started to respond to out of sheer boredom and then had precisely that response: Aww ... never mind. I actually miss Team Sock Puppet, ghastly as that thought is even to me. Ditto for the Ed Forum - it's barely worth lurking for three minutes a day. Perhaps the JFKA is simply dead? It's all just ... just ... aww, never mind (although B-O-R-I-N-G is certainly the term that springs to mind).

   That 2 hr presentation that Doug Horne posted on You Tube about a month ago is anything but "boring". We Now have documented Images of that Navy Ambulance and the Pickup Truck that carried one of the JFK Honor Guards being together at the Morgue Dock. This validates Lifton's story of that Navy ambulance being chased by the pickup truck carrying the JFK Honor Guard. Why would Bethesda have a morgue dock access that is barely wider than a vehicle? Is it to keep everything out of sight when necessary? Like on 11/22/63.  SOMEBODY took those B/W photos of the morgue dock and that same Somebody saw a lot of what went on back there on 11/22/63. Ever ask yourself ?: (1) Why the Navy Ambulance carrying an alleged dead POTUS would just sit outside the Bethesda Hospital for roughly 10 minutes? Just sit there? and, (2) On the 2 B/W Photos posted by Horne, who/what are those 2 Navy Officers saluting? Nobody was allegedly inside the pictured Navy Ambulance and the Ambulance Hood was allegedly stone cold. It had been sitting there awhile. Are these Navy Officers saluting a coffin coming toward the Morgue Dock from another direction? Another alleyway? Another coffin?  ALL of this New Information/Bethesda Morgue Dock Images are anything but "boring".