Team Headed by Former CIA Officer Concludes JFK Was Killed by a Conspiracy

[Michael T. Griffith]

In 2017, the History Channel aired a seven-part documentary titled JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald produced by former CIA case officer Robert Baer. Baer and his team conducted an extensive investigation into the JFK assassination. Baer's team included a former LAPD detective (Adam Bercovici), a former FBI profiler (Steve Gomez), and a former Special Forces Army Ranger (Marty Skovlund). Baer and his team got many things wrong, but they also got many things right. WC apologists don't like Baer's documentary because it acknowledges too many facts that they reject and reaches too many conclusions that they reject, such as the following:

-- Oswald received intelligence training and had some kind of connection with the U.S. Government after he left the Marines.

-- Oswald associated with anti-Castro Cubans and even trained with them in New Orleans. Oswald also associated with Cuban intelligence operatives.

-- The owner of Henry's Market, aka Henry's Bar, in New Orleans said Oswald came to the bar many times, and that the day after the assassination two Cubans came to the bar and told him Oswald was innocent and that Oswald had been framed.

-- Oswald's job at the Reilly Coffee Company in New Orleans was a "cover for action," that his job was a "front," a "cover." Oswald could have found a job much closer to his residence in New Orleans. Reilly's was across the street from the Crescent City Garage, which was used by federal agents as a kind of motor pool for their vehicles.

-- Adrian Alba, the owner of the Crescent City Garage, was telling the truth when he reported that he saw an FBI agent hand Oswald an envelope in front of the Reilly Coffee Company.

-- Silvia Odio told the truth when she reported that Oswald and two anti-Castro Cubans visited her residence in Dallas weeks before the assassination, and that one of the Cubans phoned her a few days later and told her that Oswald was an expert marksman and that Oswald had said that anti-Castro Cubans should have already killed JFK over the Bay of Bigs.

-- A Dallas police report noted that Oswald was seen visiting a house used by Alpha 66 members in Dallas. Alpha 66 was a violent anti-Castro and anti-JFK group. The house, located on Harlandale Avenue, was rented by Manuel Rodriguez Orcaberro, an Alpha 66 member who was known to be virulently anti-JFK.

-- Oswald was trying to reach the Harlandale house after the assassination. The bus transfer allegedly found on Oswald hours after he was arrested could have taken him to a point very close to the Harlandale house.

-- Oswald conspired with anti-Castro Cubans to kill JFK. Oswald was the only shooter, but he was supported by Alpha 66 members and other anti-Castro Cubans. If Oswald had made it to the Harlandale house, Alpha 66 members would have helped him escape.

-- The Russians played no role in the assassination, and Oswald was not working for the Russians.

-- Castro was aware of the Alpha 66 plot to assassinate JFK but did nothing to stop it. He monitored it but did not intervene to prevent it.

For these and other reasons, WC apologists have been critical of Baer's documentary, even though Baer and his team argue that Oswald was the only shooter and that Oswald shot Tippit.

The documentary is available on Amazon Prime Video and on other platforms. Here are some sources on the documentary, some favorable and some unfavorable:

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/jfk-declassified-tracking-oswald

https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-exclusive-interview-with-army-ranger-marty-skovlund-jr-from-historys-new-show-jfk-declassified-tracking-oswald/

https://time.com/4753349/oswald-kennedy-declassified-documentary/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_Declassified:_Tracking_Oswald

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/jfk-declassified-tracking-oswald-part-6

[Tom Graves]

In 2017, the History Channel aired a seven-part documentary titled JFK Declassified: Tracking Oswald produced by former CIA case officer Robert Baer. Baer and his team conducted an extensive investigation into the JFK assassination. Baer's team included a former LAPD detective (Adam Bercovici), a former FBI profiler (Steve Gomez), and a former Special Forces Army Ranger (Marty Skovlund). Baer and his team got many things wrong, but they also got many things right. WC apologists don't like Baer's documentary because it acknowledges too many facts that they reject and reaches too many conclusions that they reject, such as the following:

-- Oswald received intelligence training and had some kind of connection with the U.S. Government after he left the Marines.

-- Oswald associated with anti-Castro Cubans and even trained with them in New Orleans. Oswald also associated with Cuban intelligence operatives.

-- The owner of Henry's Market, aka Henry's Bar, in New Orleans said Oswald came to the bar many times, and that the day after the assassination two Cubans came to the bar and told him Oswald was innocent and that Oswald had been framed.

-- Oswald's job at the Reilly Coffee Company in New Orleans was a "cover for action," that his job was a "front," a "cover." Oswald could have found a job much closer to his residence in New Orleans. Reilly's was across the street from the Crescent City Garage, which was used by federal agents as a kind of motor pool for their vehicles.

-- Adrian Alba, the owner of the Crescent City Garage, was telling the truth when he reported that he saw an FBI agent hand Oswald an envelope in front of the Reilly Coffee Company.

-- Silvia Odio told the truth when she reported that Oswald and two anti-Castro Cubans visited her residence in Dallas weeks before the assassination, and that one of the Cubans phoned her a few days later and told her that Oswald was an expert marksman and that Oswald had said that anti-Castro Cubans should have already killed JFK over the Bay of Bigs.

-- A Dallas police report noted that Oswald was seen visiting a house used by Alpha 66 members in Dallas. Alpha 66 was a violent anti-Castro and anti-JFK group. The house, located on Harlandale Avenue, was rented by Manuel Rodriguez Orcaberro, an Alpha 66 member who was known to be virulently anti-JFK.

-- Oswald was trying to reach the Harlandale house after the assassination. The bus transfer allegedly found on Oswald hours after he was arrested could have taken him to a point very close to the Harlandale house.

-- Oswald conspired with anti-Castro Cubans to kill JFK. Oswald was the only shooter, but he was supported by Alpha 66 members and other anti-Castro Cubans. If Oswald had made it to the Harlandale house, Alpha 66 members would have helped him escape.

-- The Russians played no role in the assassination, and Oswald was not working for the Russians.

-- Castro was aware of the Alpha 66 plot to assassinate JFK but did nothing to stop it. He monitored it but did not intervene to prevent it.

For these and other reasons, WC apologists have been critical of Baer's documentary, even though Baer and his team argue that Oswald was the only shooter and that Oswald shot Tippit.

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Comrade Griffith,

There's oodles and gobs of circumstantial evidence that Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security was a KGB mole, himself, and there is some circumstantial evidence that he sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Solie) hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA -- which mole hunt lasted nine years, tore the Soviet Russia Division apart, and drove Angleton nuts.

If the above is true, one can only wonder how Solie and his buddies -- Nosenko-loving Leonard V. McCoy, James McCord (he of future Watergate notoriety), and Kremlin-loyal FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office, et al., ad nauseam --  might have interjected themselves into (or outright controlled) the "Oswald In Mexico City" scenario, and even, perhaps, . . . . gasp . . . the JFK assassination.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Comrade Griffith,

Are you 12 or something? What kind of a juvenile mind could conclude that I am pro-Russian or pro-communist? Anyone who visits my home page will quickly see that I am staunchly anti-communist and right-of-center--and ardently anti-Russian, anti-Putin, and pro-Ukraine.

There's oodles and gobs of circumstantial evidence that Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) in the CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security was a KGB mole, himself, and there is some circumstantial evidence that he sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Solie) hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA -- which mole hunt lasted nine years, tore the Soviet Russia Division Apart, and drove Angleton nuts.

If the above is true, one can only wonder how Solie and his buddies -- Nosenko-loving Leonard V. McCoy, James McCord (he of future Watergate notoriety), and Kremlin-loyal FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office, et al., ad nauseam --  might have interjected themselves into (or outright controlled) the "Oswald In Mexico City" scenario, and even, perhaps, . . . . gasp . . . the JFK assassination.

So you buy into the most debunked, discredited, illogical theory about the assassination: the Russians did it. There is zero evidence that the Russians had anything to do with the assassination. Khrushchev welcomed Kennedy's peace overtures and mourned his death. Khrushchev had no motive for wanting JFK dead, especially given that Kennedy's vice president, LBJ, was more hawkish and anti-Soviet.

[Tom Graves]

What kind of a juvenile mind could conclude that I am pro-Russian or pro-communist? Anyone who visits my home page will quickly see that I am staunchly anti-communist and right-of-center--and ardently anti-Russian, anti-Putin, and pro-Ukraine.

Dear Comrade Griffith,

All JFKA CTs are "useful idiots" of the KGB* in my book. After all, they, with help from Mark Lane, Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone, et al. ad nauseam, helped make our Body Politic sufficiently cynical, paranoiac and apathetic as to enable "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin to install The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") as our "president" on 20 January 2017.

*Today's SVR and FSB

So, you buy into the most debunked, discredited, illogical theory about the assassination: the Russians did it. There is zero evidence that the Russians had anything to do with the assassination. Khrushchev welcomed Kennedy's peace overtures and mourned his death. Khrushchev had no motive for wanting JFK dead, especially given that Kennedy's vice president, LBJ, was more hawkish and anti-Soviet.

I didn't say the Soviets did it, I just said that a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) may have sent former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator Oswald to Moscow in 1959 on a different mission, the true nature of which Oswald wasn't aware of. For all I know, one of Oswald's reasons for killing JFK was that he was fed up with being jerked around by the KGB-controlled CIA and the KGB proper.

Khruschev did, however, have several reasons for killing JFK. The following excerpt is from Mark Riebling's 1994 book, "Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA":

One possibility, taken seriously by Angleton and many others at CIA, was that Oswald had learned his tradecraft in Russia. A CIA report of the period asserted flatly that both Oswald and his Soviet-born wife, Marina, had been recruited by the KGB, and noted that Oswald, while living in the Soviet Union, had obtained a hunting license but never went hunting. “This would have been a good method for the KGB to meet and train him,” the report said. CIA analysts speculated that the Soviets were running a terrorist training camp in Minsk, where Oswald had lived, and considered whether he might not have been “programmed” or brainwashed by Soviet mind-control specialists using LSD. Othe questions hung unanswered: Why had Oswald maintained contact with the Soviet Embassy in Washington? What was the purpose of his contacts with Kostikov? Had he made other contacts with Kostikov, which CIA didn’t know about? Oswald had refused a lie-detector examination on those matters. That he was murdered before he could be interrogated in detail, as CIA analysts had warned, only fueled suspicion. But what would the Soviets possibly gain from Kennedy’s death that would be worth the risk of U.S. retaliation? From a pragmatic Western perspective, there seemed little profit indeed, but Angleton thought about the problem with more subtlety. First of all, the nuclear age precluded any massive U.S. retaliation — as Johnson’s craven cover-ups of all possible communist connections were already demonstrating. Second, if the Soviets had truly penetrated the Soviet Division at CIA, as Angleton believed, the KGB might even have hoped to steer U.S. investigation of the crime. As for the Soviet motive: Out was Kennedy, a charismatic leader who could “sell” a socially conscious anticommunism in the Third World and even to Western liberals. In was Johnson, who would only “heighten the contradictions” between East and West and therefore hasten (by Leninist dialectical reasoning) the ultimate collapse of late capitalism. Angleton also took seriously the observations marshaled in a November 27 memo by defector Deriabin, who cited the Kennedy administration’s opposition to long-term credits to the Soviets, which he said were vital to survival of the USSR. Johnson, by contrast, came from an agricultural state and had always supported grain sales to Russia. Moreover, Western pressure on the USSR “would automatically ease up” if the KGB murdered the president. As evidence, Deriabin noted a “conciliatory telegram” by a frightened and disoriented Lyndon Johnson to Khrushchev. A more amenable America would “strengthen Khrushchev’s hand” at a time when the Soviet leader was under intensifying internal pressures because of mismanagement of the 1963 harvest and disputes with China. Kennedy’s death, as Deriabin put it, thus “effectively diverts the Soviets’ attention from their internal problems. It directly affects Khrushchev’s longevity.” Finally, Deriabin ventured that “the death of President Kennedy, whether a planned operation or not, will serve the most obvious purpose of providing proof of the power and omniscience of the KGB.” Much later, Angleton would obliquely compare the Soviets’ probable motivation to a famous scene in Mario Puzo’s novel The Godfather, in which a Mafia chieftain puts a horse’s head into the bed of a stubborn film producer, in order to demonstrate “pure power.”

[Michael T. Griffith]

Dear Comrade Griffith,

All JFKA CTs are "useful idiots" of the KGB in my book.

This is an absurd viewpoint and proves you are not to be taken seriously.

Using your logic, you should hold the same viewpoint about anyone who says the Moon landings really happened because the KGB/FSB/SVR also acknowledge the Moon landings really happened.

I didn't say the Soviets did it, I just said that a probable KGB "mole" in the CIA by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) may have sent former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator Oswald to Moscow in 1959 on a different mission, the true nature of which Oswald wasn't aware of. For all I know, one of Oswald's reasons for killing JFK was that he was fed up with being jerked around by the KGB-controlled CIA and the KGB proper.

Ohl Got it! So the Soviets didn't do it, but a KGB mole may have caused Oswald to shoot JFK, and anyone who posits a conspiracy is a "useful idiot" for the KGB/FSB/SVR. Okay, thanks for sharing.

Khruschev did, however, have several reasons for killing JFK.

No, he did not. He heartily welcomed JFK's peace overtures and by June 1963 came to view JFK as an ally and friend. He deeply mourned JFK's death. Khrushchev's family later confirmed this. The idea that he would have wanted LBJ to replace JFK is ludicrous on its face.

FYI, one of the first things Bobby and Jackie Kennedy did after the assassination was to send a private message to the Soviets to assure them that they knew the Soviets were not involved in JFK's death and that JFK was killed by a domestic conspiracy.

[Tom Graves]

The Soviets didn't do it, but a KGB mole may have caused Oswald to shoot JFK?

I said the Soviets probably didn't do it, but they may have. There's a possibility that the moles (plural) in the CIA, in conjunction with a Kremlin-loyal triple agent in the FBI and the local KGB / DGI, manipulated Oswald and/or "Oswald" in Mexico City.

One does wonder why KGB security officer Ivan Obyedkov (whom the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited) volunteered the made-radioactive-by-FEDORA* name "Kostikov" to a "forgetful" Oswald or "Oswald" over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phoneline on 10/1/63.

*FEDORA was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent by the name of KGB Major Aleksei Kulak at the FBI's NYC field office. He duped the FBI from early 1962 to 1977. FBI manager/agent James Nolan "saw the light" about the time that Edward J. Epstein published his book, "Legend," but after three years a counterintelligence-hating manager/agent by the name of James Geer, with help from "researchers" provided to him by probable KGB mole Leonard V. McCoy in the CIA, reversed Nolan's determination that Kulak was fake, and the "official" Gumshoe Bureau position today is that Kulak/FEDORA really was spying for the FBI. LOL!

Anyone who posits a conspiracy is a "useful idiot" for the KGB/FSB/SVR.

Especially a JFK assassination conspiracy theory.

A "useful idiot" is, by definition, unwitting. People who have been zombified by sixty-six years of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies are unwitting "useful idiots." Take you, for example.

Or . . . gasp . . . are you witting?

If so, does "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

Regardless, the "KGB" no longer exists in name. To make us feel more comfortable and to get us to drop our guard, the Kremlin in 1992 renamed the KGB's two component parts (the First Chief Directorate -- foreign intelligence -- became the SVR; the Second Chief Directorate -- domestic intelligence and overall counterintelligence -- became the FSB) and did away with the overall name "KGB." Your writing it like that shows your ignorance. You should have written "SVR/FSB and GRU (military intelligence)," instead.

Khrushchev heartily welcomed JFK's peace overtures and by June 1963 came to view JFK as an ally and friend.

Analogous to how "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin views Trump as an ally and friend as he continues bombing civilians in Ukraine?

He deeply mourned JFK's death. Khrushchev's family later confirmed this.

That's what they said, so it must be true.

(LOL) 

FYI, one of the first things Bobby and Jackie Kennedy did after the assassination was to send a private message to the Soviets to assure them that they knew the Soviets were not involved in JFK's death and that JFK was killed by a domestic conspiracy.

I'm sure that warmed the cockles of the Politburo's collective (pardon the pun) heart.

[Michael T. Griffith]

I said the Soviets probably didn't do it, but they may have. There's a possibility that the moles (plural) in the CIA, in conjunction with a Kremlin-loyal triple agent in the FBI and the local KGB / DGI, manipulated Oswald and/or "Oswald" in Mexico City.

#waffling_all_over_the_place

Especially a JFK assassination conspiracy theory. A "useful idiot" is, by definition, unwitting. People who have been zombified by sixty-six years of KGB disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations waged against us and our NATO allies are unwitting "useful idiots."

Humm, well, that means 2/3 to 3/4 of the Western world are "useful idiots." 

Take you, for example. Or . . . gasp . . . are you witting? If so, does "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

Do your parents know you're using one of their computers to post such craziness? 

Analogous to how "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin views Trump as an ally and friend as he continues bombing civilians in Ukraine?

More of your juvenile silliness.

That's what they said, so it must be true. (LOL)

 

Uh, yeah, because his family was quite anti-Stalin and anti-hardline. They admired Kennedy, especially after his American University speech. But, I guess in your mind there were no such things as good Russians, or Russians who wanted to see the Soviet Union reform and allow more basic rights. I'm guessing you don't know that Khrushchev repeatedly tried to cut Soviet military spending and came under fierce attack from hardliners for doing so.

I'm sure that warmed the cockles of the Politburo's collective (pardon the pun) heart.

Another narrow-minded juvenile comment.

Again, you are not to be taken seriously. You come across as a troll who is obsessed with blaming everything on the Russians.

[Tom Graves]

That means 2/3 to 3/4 of the Western world are "useful idiots." 

Dear Comrade Griffith,

Those who, like you, have been brainwashed by sixty-two years of KGB* disinformation via Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, and Oliver Stone, et al. ad nauseam, into believing that self-described Marxist and former sharpshooting Marine Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill JFK, but that the evil, evil CIA, or the evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex, or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] did sure are.

Or, OMG, are you actually working for "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin? After all, you do spend a lot of time posting here and/or at the so-called Ed Forum every day, and you do go about it with a religious zeal!

Why is it so important to you to wittingly or unwittingly spread KGB* disinfo, Comrade Griffith?

You've said that you're "right-of-center." Does that mean you're a supporter of The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx")? If so, seeing as how conspiracy theories helped "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin install him as our "president," it could explain why you're so dedicated to ensuring that tinfoil-hat JFKA CTs continue to thrive.

Please fess up Comrade Griffith!

*Today's SVR and FSB

-- Tom