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Did Jim Garrison originally think the JFKA was a homosexual thrill-kill?

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Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Lance Payette on August 01, 2025, 06:19:12 PM ---"Homosexual thrill killings" are a well-known category of major crime. [FPR says sarcastically.] Ask any FBI profiler; they have to attend 40 hours of classroom training just on homosexual thrill killings, although today the course is called LGBTQ+ thrill killings. Here is a fairly scholarly yet amusing discussion, "A Homosexual Thrill-Kill?", https://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/thrill-kill-by-gorightly.pdf. The author, Adam Gorightly, is apparently quite well-known in certain circles and describes himself as "a true Renaissance man of the lunatic fringe," https://adamgorightly.com/index.html

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Dear FPR,

On one hand, six months ago (see above) you belittled the idea that Jim Garrison (or any other prosecutor) would consider charging someone with committing a homosexual "thrill-kill," and on the other hand, earlier today you posted a fine documentary based on Patricia Lambert's excellent book, False Witness, (which Al Beaubouef turned me onto when he called me out-of-the-blue in 2008 to correct something I'd posted at the so-called Ed Forum) in which former Saturday Evening Post writer James Phelan says Garrison told him exactly that in early 1967.

Do you think Phelan was lying?

Regardless, it's interesting that Garrison's assistant, Life magazine's Richard Billings, wrote in his journal on 16 March 1967 words to the effect that, "Having read the [communist-owned, anti-CIA / anti-Clay Shaw] "Paese Sera" article, Garrison is now considering the possibility that Clay Shaw did it for the CIA."

Do you think Billings was lying, too, FPR?

-- Tom

PS When we read False Witness, we find the following:

(slightly paraphrased)

“Garrison’s supporters claim that Phelan fabricated the story about Garrison’s “homosexual thrill-killing’’ theory, but William Gurvich told Shaw’s attorneys about it in 1967, Perry Russo recited the “theory” in his 1971 statements to them and said it came from the D.A.’s office, several references to it -- tied directly to Garrison and including at least one direct quote -- are found in Billings Personal Notes, and journalist Nicholas C. Chriss connected it to Garrison [See chapter 6, note 17].”

[footnote 17] Ibid. [Russo-Defense Team Interview], p. 8. Garrison discussed this homosexual-thrill-killing theory, which made headlines in one of the tabloids of the period, with members of his staff and various journalists, including Richard Billings, James Phelan and Nicholas Chriss (Gurvich Conference, tape #2, p. 18; Billings Personal Notes, pp. 16, 18, 28; James Phelan, Scandals, Scamps, and Scoundrels [New York: Random House, 1982] pp. 150-151; Nicholas Chriss, “New Orleans: Melodrama, but the Plot Is Obscure,” Los Angeles Times, Opinion, Section G, March 26, 1967, p. 2).

Benjamin Cole:
It was Malcolm Blunt who said the Bruce Solie was all over the Garrison investigation.

I wonder what he meant.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on January 26, 2026, 08:20:16 AM ---It was Malcolm Blunt who said the Bruce Solie was all over the Garrison investigation.

I wonder what he meant.

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He said, "Solie was all over the Kennedy Investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison."

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Tom Graves on August 01, 2025, 03:17:31 AM ---Did Jim Garrison originally think closeted gay businessman Clay Shaw had masterminded a homosexual "thrill kill assassination of JFK which involved Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie and Guy Banister?

That's what over-ambitious, scandal-plagued and revengeful New Orleans DA Jim Garrison thought before he read an anti-CIA / anti-Shaw article published in "Paese Sera," a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (which article was republished in a French Communist newspaper, L'Humanité, translated into English and given to him by Bertrand Russell's Far-Left secretary, Ralph Schoenman -- Joan Mellen's ex-husband -- in 1967).

We know that in his 1989 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, Garrison lied when he wrote that he hadn't been aware of the article until after the Shaw Trial was over because about three weeks after Garrison had arrested Shaw, Life Magazine's Richard Billings -- who was helping Garrison -- wrote in his journal that Garrison had a copy of the L'Humanité article:

"Story about Shaw and CIA appears in Humanite [L'Humanité], probably March 8 . . . Giant has copy datelined Rome, March 7, from La Presse Italien . . . It explains Shaw working in Rome in '58 to '60 period . . ."  (22 March 1967)

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PS I miss Lance "Fancy Pants Rants" Payette!!!

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