The Huge Gates Theory

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Offline Dan O'meara

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The Huge Gates Theory
« on: June 30, 2025, 04:53:38 PM »
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This is Royell's most recent post regarding his Huge Gates theory.
It pretty much sums up his thinking on the matter:

 "I believe that Assassin(s) Entry and Exit from the TSBD was done via the Huge Gates that were attached to the side of the TSBD along the Elm St. Extension. Officer Luke Mooney gave WC Testimony regarding his walking through these "Wide Open" gates, about 5-6  minutes after the Kill Shot. Mooney then entered the TSBD 1st floor in very close proximity to the stairwell and freight elevators. These gates were "wide open" on the Towner Film prior to the Kill Shot, and are still  "Wide Open" after the Kill Shot, (Couch Film). (The gates opened Inward). After walking through the Huge Gates, Officer Mooney testified as to closing them. His closing of these gates would be at about 6-7 minutes after the Kill Shot. (The gates can be seen to be closed on the Martin Film as Amos Euins is filmed on the back of the Officer Harkin's 3 wheel motorcycle racing down the Elm St Ext). The assassin(s) could have easily walked through the "wide open" Huge Gates shortly before shots were fired. They then entered the TSBD 1st Floor and immediately walked up the close by stairwell to the 6th floor. They exited the TSBD in reverse manner and simply mixed into the stunned eyewitnesses outside of the TSBD."

Just to clear up a few inaccuracies.

1) Officer Luke Mooney gave WC Testimony regarding his walking through these "Wide Open" gates, about 5-6  minutes after the Kill Shot.

Mooney does not testify that he walked through the gates about 5 - 6 minutes after the "Kill Shot"

2) His closing of these gates would be at about 6-7 minutes after the Kill Shot.

There is photographic evidence that the gates were still wide open at 12:40 pm

3) The gates can be seen to be closed on the Martin Film as Amos Euins is filmed on the back of the Officer Harkin's 3 wheel motorcycle racing down the Elm St Ext

The gates are wide open in this footage.
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2025, 05:27:34 PM »


In the still from the Martin film above it looks like the gates are closed but they're not.
When the gates are wide open they rest against the interior wall. The shadows of the diamond pattern on the gates can be seen being cast against the wall.

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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2025, 05:39:14 PM »
    Officer Luke Mooney gave WC Testimony regarding he and 2 other Officers "closed" the "Wide Open" gates. The massive size of these gates required 3 people to "close" them. Mooney also testified that he did Not "lock" them. He said he did not know what might happen after he left those gates. So, they simply pushed the gates closed/ajar.  The huge gates we see on the Martin Film are exactly as Mooney left them. Closed/ajar but Not Locked. Those gates are in this same closed/ajar position on "The Three Tramps" photo as the 3 Tramps are being escorted by DPD passed those gates. That photo was taken somewhere between 1:45 - 2:00 hrs after the kill shot. The Martin Film shows Euins on the back of Harkness 3 wheeled motorcycle with the Huge Gates being closed/ajar in the background. Harkness gave WC Testimony of making a 12:36 police radio transmission of having an eyewitness to shot(s) being fired from the TSBD. This eyewitness was Euins. And we see Euins on the 3 wheel motorcycle racing down the Elm St Ext with the huge gates already being closed/ajar. Officer Mooney + 2 other Officers had already walked through/closed the gates prior to Harkness and Euins being captured on the Martin Film. (Remember the Harkness 12:36 police radio transmission). The 12:36 Harkness police radio transmission give us a good timeline for Officer Mooney walking through and closing the Huge Gates.     

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2025, 05:51:31 PM »


In the still from the Martin film above it looks like the gates are closed but they're not.
When the gates are wide open they rest against the interior wall. The shadows of the diamond pattern on the gates can be seen being cast against the wall.

   The Huge "Gate" we see above is closed/ajar. If we could see the other gate, we would see the 2 gates are roughly 2 feet apart. The Three Tramps photo shows these gates to be in the same position we see above. Closed/Ajar. The Three Tramps photo was taken close to 2 hrs after the Kill Shot.

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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2025, 10:43:34 PM »
This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5

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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2025, 12:19:08 AM »
   The Huge "Gate" we see above is closed/ajar. If we could see the other gate, we would see the 2 gates are roughly 2 feet apart. The Three Tramps photo shows these gates to be in the same position we see above. Closed/Ajar. The Three Tramps photo was taken close to 2 hrs after the Kill Shot.

Wrong again.
In the Allen pic below we can see the space where the Huge Gates are is just a rectangular black void. There is no diamond pattern discernible meaning the gates are still "wide open".
The Hertz clock on the TSBD building reads 12:40pm.
The Huge Gates were still open at 12:40pm.





As I've already told you, I dealt with this issue years ago.
All it means is that the building was not properly locked down for at least 10 minutes after the shooting.
As I've already stated, the door on the west of the building was never locked down so anyone could come and go as they pleased through that door.
Your made up nonsense about the Huge Gates all being part of a professional plan is a joke that only you don't seem to be getting.

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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2025, 12:20:00 AM »
This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5
Conspiracy believers will accept almost all sorts of possibilities except Oswald shooting from that window. That one is just too far fetched.

Fake films and phony autopsies? JFK's body hijacked and wounds altered? Sixty years of coverups? Witnesses killed by death teams? News media controlled by the CIA? Sure, go with it. But Oswald with a rifle? Not possible.
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Re: The Huge Gates Theory
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2025, 01:11:53 AM »
This scenario seems to fall under the plausible believability scenario.
Someone could have entered.
That doesn’t mean they did.
No-one reported any strangers entering the building. Or Oswald moving about to let someone in.
Who would he have let in?
Some mafia or CIA hitman presumably.
Where’s the verification?
2+2=5

  Thank you. I have been contacted by many respected JFK Assassination Researchers with the same opinion that you hold. "VERY Plausible". The problem here is that NO ONE has ever gotten into these Huge Gates being "wide open" before, during, and after the Kill Shot. With respect to your, "No-one reported any stranger entering the building", once you walked through those huge gates and then enter the TSBD 1st floor, you are almost on top of the stairwell and freight elevators. You are on the very fringe of the TSBD 1st floor. Even if someone was on the 1st Floor shortly before the assassination, their attention would Not be directed toward the Back corner of that 1st floor. Officer Mooney detailed the entrance being close to the stairwell and freight elevators in his WC Testimony. Mooney was called before the WC to verify his finding the 6th floor Sniper's Nest. But like many testimonies, there are Pearls buried within the testimony that apply to other areas of the JFK Assassination.

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