The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

[Dan O'meara]

Maybe it’s not quite as sloppy as it may appear.
 If the conspirator shooter IS using the MC rifle that Oswald had been “given”?  (For a period of time and taken photo of) then this shooter did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.
Then in another 4.8 secs after that he got the 313 head kill shot ( an 8”diameter target moving away at 8mph at about 90 yds.) And he did that with irons sights most likely because the scope was misaligned. Imo, that’s NOT an amateur shooter.
Then just to make sure that at least a couple of witness would see the rifle at the 6th floor SE window sticking out the window, the shooter fired a 3rd  shot about 2 secs AFTER 313, which was not really aimed , and hit the curb near Tague.

This conspirator shooter probably got into the TSBD with the MC rifle on the late night Thursday, and hid himself on the 7th floor attic space, He came down to the 6th floor at 12:15pm to the SW 6th floor window where he was seen by Arnold Rowland. He saw BR Williams so retreated and hid himself until NRW had left the floor. The shooter then moved to SE window to get a better shot angle.

Why the conspirator shooter did not just leave the rifle in plain view at the SE window? Maybe he thought that would be too obvious and cause suspicion of a set up of Oswald, otherwise I’m not sure.

How this shooter escaped from 6th floor and past Baker and Truly as they were watching Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom, would be to use the west elevator ( instead of Dougherty).

If Dougherty could have used the west elevator and not be seen by Dorothy Garner, Baker, Truly, or Eddie Piper, then so could the shooter.

What was Oswald carrying in the paper bag that was under his armpit and in the cup of his hand? If they had found curtain rods or a roll of blinds in a paper bag several months later, say in the storage room by the front stairs, would anyone have reported that? Given all the other fake documents , destroyed notes, and rearranging SN etc , it’s doubtful.

If the conspirator shooter IS using the MC rifle that Oswald had been “given”?

I find it very difficult to believe that a professional marksman, contracted to assassinate the most powerful man on the planet would use Oswald's MC to do the job.
I really don't see that happening but that's just my opinion.

then this shooter did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.

As I've stated, it's my opinion the shooter was aiming for a head shot, ideally the centre of the head.
If that's the case then the first shot (which passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223 IMO) was a miss by a good 8 - 10 inches.
The head shot struck between z312 and z313, some 4.92 (let's call it 5) seconds after the first, non-fatal, shot. It is just a massive stroke of luck that during these 5 seconds nothing happened that could prevent the head shot.
So, IMO, we have a miss then a massive stroke of luck. Not my idea of a professional, military, expert operation.

Then just to make sure that at least a couple of witness would see the rifle at the 6th floor SE window sticking out the window, the shooter fired a 3rd  shot about 2 secs AFTER 313, which was not really aimed , and hit the curb near Tague.

I, too, believe the third shot happened after the fatal head shot but I'm totally baffled as to why you would think the third shot was fired to draw attention to the rifle. I really don't get what you're reasoning might be for that. Why would a professional gunman be deliberately trying to give his position away?
The third shot is completely unnecessary and seems to me like it has an element of panic to it. I get the impression it is a wild, hurried shot that misses everything including the limo.
Again, this does not strike me as being particularly professional.

[Tom Graves]

[If the sniper used Oswald's Carcano,] then he did a pretty amazing job of scoring a hit on JFK on his FIRST shot which is at Z223-224.

Oswald's FIRST shot wasn't at z223-z224.

His SECOND shot was, though.

[Dan O'meara]

Oswald's FIRST shot wasn't at z223-z224.

His SECOND shot was, though.

The first of the three clearly audible shots passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223.
The second shot was the head shot, between z312 and z313.

The mountain of evidence supporting this claim can be found at "The First Shot" thread - https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2723.msg98813.html#msg98813

[Tom Graves]

The first of the three clearly audible shots passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223.
The second shot was the head shot, between z312 and z313.

Oswald's first (missing everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-124" (i.e., half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) was sufficiently steeply-downward-angled as to require him to stand and awkwardly lean forward while firing it.

The muzzle of his Carcano was, therefore, inside the building when he fired said missing-everything shot.

The sound of the muzzle blast it created was therefore different from the sounds of his next two shots (at Z-222 - Z-224 and Z-313), which shots were fired from a kneeling position -- and with the muzzle of his Carcano outside the building.

[Dan O'meara]

Oswald's first (missing everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-124" (i.e., half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) was sufficiently steeply-downward-angled as to require him to stand and awkwardly lean forward while firing it.

The muzzle of his Carcano was, therefore, inside the building, and the sound of the muzzle blast it created was therefore different from the sounds of his next two shots at Z222-Z-224 and Z-313, which shots were fired from a kneeling position -- and with the muzzle of his Carcano outside the building.

I have a mountain of evidence to back up my claim.
The same mountain of evidence completely obliterates the notion of such an early shot.
I would, however, be interested to hear what evidence you have based your belief in such an early shot on.

[Tom Graves]

I would be interested to hear what evidence you have based your belief in such an early (i.e., hypothetical "Z-124") shot on.

Perhaps you missed my earlier posts (on different "threads") on the subject.

Are you hoping for a special one-on-one tutorial?

[Dan O'meara]

Perhaps you missed my earlier posts (on different "threads") on the subject.

Are you hoping for a special one-on-one tutorial?

A one-on-one tutorial?
 
Thanks for the offer but I'll have to decline.
I've covered this issue in great detail in "The First Shot" thread. If you want to get up to speed check it out.

Other than the mountain of evidence ruling out such an early shot I can see at least one big problem with your theory right away.
Having Oswald standing for the first shot should have had alarm bells ringing.
I doubt it's even possible to stand by a half closed window in that small space and hit a target on the road.
The arrangement of the Sniper's Perch would clearly indicate the shooter was preparing for a shot after the limo emerged from behind the oak tree. Why create the Perch then stand? Wouldn't these boxes be in the way while he was standing? I reckon it would be near impossible to get a standing shot on target in these circumstances.

[Tom Graves]

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O'meara,

Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote.

I'll try to rephrase it for you so you can understand.

Oswald was standing and awkwardly leaning forward at the 1/3-open window for his first, sharply-downward-angled, missing-everything shot which sounded different than his other two shots because the muzzle of his Carcano was just inside the building.

Oswald ejected the spent cartridge from his Carcano while he was still standing. That ejected shell didn't bounce off the stack of boxes behind him but flew unhindered all the way down to the stack of boxes to his right.

Oswald knelt and rested his left elbow / forearm on the top box for his next two shots, during which the muzzle of his Carcano was outside the building. When he ejected those two shells from his kneeling position, they bounced off the stack of boxes behind him and ended up under the window.

The different sound of the first shot, the fact that it missed everything, and the ejection pattern of the three spent shells suggest that this is what happened.

A scientific analysis of the conscious reactions of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, and Governor Connally) by Roselle and Scearce in 2020 suggests that the first shot was fired half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 (after a 17-second pause), and that Oswald, therefore, took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

Understand yet?

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