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The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on July 01, 2025, 01:12:44 AM ---Oswald's FIRST shot wasn't at z223-z224.
His SECOND shot was, though.
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The first of the three clearly audible shots passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223.
The second shot was the head shot, between z312 and z313.
The mountain of evidence supporting this claim can be found at "The First Shot" thread - https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2723.msg98813.html#msg98813
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on July 01, 2025, 01:26:06 AM ---The first of the three clearly audible shots passed through both JFK and JBC between z222 and z223.
The second shot was the head shot, between z312 and z313.
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Oswald's first (missing everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-124" (i.e., half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) was sufficiently steeply-downward-angled as to require him to stand and awkwardly lean forward while firing it.
The muzzle of his Carcano was, therefore, inside the building when he fired said missing-everything shot.
The sound of the muzzle blast it created was therefore different from the sounds of his next two shots (at Z-222 - Z-224 and Z-313), which shots were fired from a kneeling position -- and with the muzzle of his Carcano outside the building.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on July 01, 2025, 01:44:34 AM ---Oswald's first (missing everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-124" (i.e., half-a second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) was sufficiently steeply-downward-angled as to require him to stand and awkwardly lean forward while firing it.
The muzzle of his Carcano was, therefore, inside the building, and the sound of the muzzle blast it created was therefore different from the sounds of his next two shots at Z222-Z-224 and Z-313, which shots were fired from a kneeling position -- and with the muzzle of his Carcano outside the building.
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I have a mountain of evidence to back up my claim.
The same mountain of evidence completely obliterates the notion of such an early shot.
I would, however, be interested to hear what evidence you have based your belief in such an early shot on.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on July 01, 2025, 01:49:23 AM ---I would be interested to hear what evidence you have based your belief in such an early (i.e., hypothetical "Z-124") shot on.
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Perhaps you missed my earlier posts (on different "threads") on the subject.
Are you hoping for a special one-on-one tutorial?
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on July 01, 2025, 01:52:52 AM ---Perhaps you missed my earlier posts (on different "threads") on the subject.
Are you hoping for a special one-on-one tutorial?
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A one-on-one tutorial?
:D :D
Thanks for the offer but I'll have to decline.
I've covered this issue in great detail in "The First Shot" thread. If you want to get up to speed check it out.
Other than the mountain of evidence ruling out such an early shot I can see at least one big problem with your theory right away.
Having Oswald standing for the first shot should have had alarm bells ringing.
I doubt it's even possible to stand by a half closed window in that small space and hit a target on the road.
The arrangement of the Sniper's Perch would clearly indicate the shooter was preparing for a shot after the limo emerged from behind the oak tree. Why create the Perch then stand? Wouldn't these boxes be in the way while he was standing? I reckon it would be near impossible to get a standing shot on target in these circumstances.
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