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The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

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Dan O'meara:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on June 28, 2025, 06:54:34 PM ---        The link provided above jumps into the middle of the story of the Huge Gates. On top of that, those images show The Gates to be only "ajar". They are not "Wide Open". This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a mystery. You routinely still have a mystery on your hands. The images above were captured After the Kill Shot. What do we know about the status of The Gates before the Kill Shot was fired? Look at the Towner Film as the JFK Limo is turning from Houston St onto Elm St. Where The Gates are supposed to be, we see nothing but a Square Black Hole. Why is that? It is because The Gates and the bright placards on them are Not There. The 2 Huge Gates are "Wide Open" at this point in time prior to the Kill Shot. And for the record, both Gates open INWARD.  If you look at a reverse negative of the Couch Film, those Huge Gates are still "Wide Open" (inward), about 30 seconds after the Kill Shot. We see on the Martin Film showing Euins on the back of Officer Harkness 3 wheel motorcycle, that The Gates are only "ajar" at this point in time. The 2 gates then are roughly 2 feet apart from each other. This would be at about 6 or 7 minutes after the Kill Shot. Officer Harkness gave WC Testimony verifying his making a 12:36 police radio transmission regarding his having a witness, (Euins), with respect to seeing shot(s) fired from the TSBD. (Mandatory to read/know sworn testimony if you seriously want to solve this case). So, how did the Huge Gates go from being "Wide Open" on the Towner Film to simply being "ajar" on the Martin Film at 12:36-12:37?  Officer Luke Mooney gave WC Testimony that he and 2 other officers found those Huge Gates were "Wide Open" as they walked down the Elm St Extension. The 3 officers were inside the train yard when they received orders to secure the TSBD, and they headed down the Elm Ext to do such when they found The Gates "Wide Open". They walked through The Gates and then the 3 of them "Closed" the gates, but they did Not lock them shut. This then puts the Gates in their "ajar" status. (Martin Film). Mooney and the 2 officers then entered the TSBD from the other side of these Huge Gates. Their entry into the TSBD 1st floor found them extremely close to the Stairwell and the Freight Elevators. The 2 officers went up the stairwell while Mooney used the freight elevator. This was the shooter(s) avenue of escape from the TSBD. Straight down the stairwell and then just feet away from walking through the "Wide Open" Huge Gates and mingling into the shocked crowd on the Elm Ext and around the TSBD.               

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This has got nothing to do with the topic of this thread so I'd like you to take it somewhere else, Royell.
I posted - "It starts at Reply#559, read on from there." - but you didn't read on, did you Royell?
Start your own thread about your Huge Gates mystery.
If you have anything to contribute to the topic of this thread feel free to do so.

Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 28, 2025, 09:26:27 PM ---This has got nothing to do with the topic of this thread so I'd like you to take it somewhere else, Royell.
I posted - "It starts at Reply#559, read on from there." - but you didn't read on, did you Royell?
Start your own thread about your Huge Gates mystery.
If you have anything to contribute to the topic of this thread feel free to do so.

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    The moral of this story is that Knowing sworn testimony is vitally important to solving the JFK murder. It's easy to just examine the assassination images. This is what most people do.  It is laborious to read through the sworn testimonies and then retain them to memory for future reference when applicable. There are diamonds frequently buried deep within testimony. Diamonds were sprinkled within the Mooney testimony which broke the Huge Gates TSBD Entrance/Exit route wide open. The same was true with the diamonds I discovered in the Officer Haygood/Tague testimonies. Those and the photo of Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass proved that we are Not seeing Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film. And now I am digging into #3.   ......................STAY TUNED  .......................... 

Jarrett Smith:

--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 28, 2025, 10:41:25 AM ---So, you agree the assassination was not professional. That's the point I was making.
It was not carried out by someone hired/contracted for their specific skill as a marksman.
It would appear to be carried out by someone familiar with rifles but not particularly skilled.

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Professional enough they had a man in a secret service disguise. Classic Mafia.

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Jarrett Smith on June 29, 2025, 06:06:48 AM ---Professional enough they had a man in a secret service disguise. Classic Mafia.

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Why do you have a psychological need to believe the JFKA was a conspiracy?

Dan O'meara:

--- Quote from: Jarrett Smith on June 29, 2025, 06:06:48 AM ---Professional enough they had a man in a secret service disguise. Classic Mafia.

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So, you start off by saying - "Maybe not professional" - and now it's - "Professional enough"
I assume you believe there was a shot from the GK and you're just going to ignore the points being made about how ludicrous an idea that is in terms of planning the assassination.
The GK could have been swarming with people, there could have been hundreds of people in that area. The planners had no way of knowing what they would be dealing with. There could have been hundreds lining Elm Street. And behind the picket fence was a car park - people parking cars, returning to cars etc.
The car park area was wide open. Look at the pic below, there is no way to control this area:



Try to put yourself in the position of someone planning the assassination.
How sensible does a shot from behind the picket fence look now?

One of the main reasons why people believe there was a shot from behind the picket fence is because so many people run up to that area immediately following the shooting.
Motorcycle cop, Clyde Haygood, heard this transmission on his radio from police Chief Curry:

"Get a man on top of that triple underpass and see what happened up there".

That's exactly what Haygood does. He gets off his bike and races up to the triple underpass - not up behind the picket fence.
A group of people see a cop running up there and decided to follow and this causes a cascade effect of people running up to that general
area just because they've seen other people running up to that area.

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