Why are so many CIA-hating folks drawn to the JFKA?

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Online Tom Graves

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Why are so many CIA-hating folks drawn to the JFKA?
« on: June 13, 2025, 03:49:03 AM »
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Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
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Why are so many CIA-hating folks drawn to the JFKA?
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2025, 07:27:13 PM »
You may find this surprising but folks who are a few fries short of a happy meal often blame entities like the CIA or - wait for it - Russia for any nefarious event.   They are paranoid types.  Know anyone like that?

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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2025, 08:23:10 PM »
You may find this surprising but folks who are a few fries short of a happy meal often blame entities like the CIA or - wait for it - Russia for any nefarious event.   They are paranoid types.  Know anyone like that?

You hated the pre-John Ratcliffe and pre-Michael Ellis CIA, didn't you, Smith?

Do you think Tulsi "Mahalo" Gabbard was a good choice as Director of National Intelligence?
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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2025, 08:36:47 PM »
You may find this surprising but folks who are a few fries short of a happy meal often blame entities like the CIA or - wait for it - Russia for any nefarious event.   They are paranoid types.  Know anyone like that?

I'm glad to know that you characterize "former" KGB* officer Vladimir Putin's installing, with the help of sixty-six years of nation-rending KGB* "active measures" waged against us, The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx) as our "president" in 2017 and 2025 as nefarious events.

There's hope for you yet, Smith.

*Today's SVR and FSB

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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2025, 01:59:27 AM »
You hated the pre-John Ratcliffe and pre-Michael Ellis CIA, didn't you, Smith?

Do you think Tulsi "Mahalo" Gabbard was a good choice as Director of National Intelligence?

It is all the more humorous that you are calling out the paranoid CIA "nuttycakes" without seeing the irony. 

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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2025, 05:52:25 AM »
It is all the more humorous that you are calling out the paranoid CIA "nuttycakes" without seeing the irony.

Smith,

Not CIA nuttycakes, but Far-Left and Far-Right nuttycakes who blame the JFKA on the CIA.

Get it?

Regardless, you and I seem to agree that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

I say he did it with-or-without the help of the KGB.

Do you say he did it with the help of the CIA, or all by him widdle Marxist self?

Whichever is the case for you, how do you explain the fact that so many JFKA conspiracy theorists (e.g., Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, Jim DiEugenio, Jefferson Morley, Oliver Stone, et al. ad nauseam) fervently believe the Agency was behind the assassination?
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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2025, 01:56:39 PM »
Smith,

Not CIA nuttycakes, but Far-Left and Far-Right nuttycakes who blame the JFKA on the CIA.

Get it?

Regardless, you and I seem to agree that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

I say he did it with-or-without the help of the KGB.

Do you say he did it with the help of the CIA, or all by him widdle Marxist self?

Whichever is the case for you, how do you explain the fact that so many JFKA conspiracy theorists (e.g., Mark Lane, Jim Garrison, Jim DiEugenio, Jefferson Morley, Oliver Stone, et al. ad nauseam) fervently believe the Agency was behind the assassination?

My position is clear.  Oswald did it all by his lonesome.  Only paranoid types like yourself believe that no important event can occur without the guiding hand of the CIA or KGB. 

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Re: Why are so many CIA-hating nuttycakes drawn to the JFKA?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2025, 02:15:09 PM »
My position is clear.  Oswald did it all by his lonesome.  Only paranoid types like yourself believe that no important event can occur without the guiding hand of the CIA or KGB.

Smith,

In case you missed it, I said, "I think Oswald killed JFK with-or-without the help of the KGB."

If the KGB did help him, it was probably only in the form of encouragement / Marxist-Leninist Indoctrination and/or "programming."

The fact that so many more JFKA conspiracy theorists believe "the CIA did it" than "the KGB did it" is itself circumstantial evidence that the KGB did it I mean encouraged Oswald to do it.

It is interesting, though, that a KGB mole in the "evil, evil, evil" CIA sent (or duped Angleton into sending) former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald to Moscow in 1959, and that a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (i.e., someone the CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited) "volunteered" the Department-13-radioactive name "Kostikov" to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-KGB phone line on 10/1/63, especially given the fact that the only reason the CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department-13 was because a Kremlin-loyal triple agent at the FBI's NYC field office, J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA, had told the Bureau a year earlier that Kostikov's charge at the U.N., Igor Brykin, was a Department-13 agent.
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