Understanding the Importance of the Z186-190 Shot

[Tom Graves]

Incorrect. Many witnesses including SS agents heard three shots but did not hear or respond to a shot around 160. Sam Kinney for example heard and saw 3 shots strike Kennedy, Connally, and Kennedy.

The three shots, all from the sixth floor Sniper's Nest, were at hypothetical "Z-124," Z-222/223, and Z-313.

[Royell Storing]

   A "Hypothetical" early shot is right in line with the SBTheory. This is what the LN scenario is built on. Hypotheticals.  Want SCIENCE? Knott Lab Forensic SCIENCE has found the SBT "Is Impossible". 

[Tom Graves]

A "Hypothetical" early shot is right in line with the SBTheory. This is what the LN scenario is built on. Hypotheticals.  Want SCIENCE? Knott Lab Forensic SCIENCE has found the SBT "Is Impossible".

Storing,

If Zapruder had filmed continuously from the time the three motorcycle policemen turned onto Elm Street, his camera would have "captured" Oswald's first, missing everything shot at Z-124.

Does that help you understand a little bit better?

"Knott Lab Forensic Science" is the mother of all oxymorons, and you know it.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Storing, If Zapruder had filmed continuously from the time the three motorcycle policemen turned onto Elm Street, his camera would have "captured" Oswald's first, missing everything shot at Z-124.
Does that help you understand a little bit better? "Knott Lab Forensic Science" is the mother of all oxymorons, and you know it.

So let me get this straight: According to you, your supposed lone gunman fired at Z124 and somehow managed to miss the entire gigantic limousine with his easiest and closest shot? That's your scenario??? At Z124, the limo would have been less than 100 feet away. The gunman would have been able to take his time aiming for this shot, unlike his supposed two other shots. Yet, you're saying that he completely missed the massive 21 x 6.7-foot limousine with his closest and easiest shot, and then amazingly went two for two in 5.6 seconds, a performance that the three Master-rated riflemen in the WC's rifle test were unable to duplicate, even though they were firing from only 30 feet up and were firing at stationary target boards? Really??? That's your scenario???

What about the Z145-155 shot and the Z186-190 shot?

Z145-155

• There is a noticeable blur episode starting at around Z158.

• Connally starts to turn his head rapidly to the right at Z162.

• A 10-year-old girl named Rosemary Willis, running along the grass to the left of the limousine, begins to noticeably slow down between Z162 and Z174, and she is standing still by no later than Z187. When she was an adult, Ms. Willis explained that she stopped running because she heard a loud noise behind her.

Z186-190

• A strong blue episode starts at Z189.

• At right around Z199, JFK's waving motion suddenly freezes, he starts to turn his head to the right, and he starts to bring his hands inward.

• By Z202-204, Mrs. Kennedy has made a sudden sharp turn to the right, toward her husband. When she reemerges into view at Z223, she is looking intently at her husband (obviously her attention was drawn to him because the reaction that he had begun at around Z200 had become more noticeable while the car was behind the freeway sign).

• At Z207, Howard Brennan suddenly looks to his right.

• At the direction of the Secret Service, Special Agent John Howlett analyzed films of the shooting (mainly the Zapruder film) with the aid of a surveyor a few days after the assassination. He concluded that Kennedy was first hit at around Z199.

• Secret Service agent (SSA) George Hickey, seated in the left rear of the follow-up car, begins to turn his head to the right in Z195; he continues this motion for as long as he can be seen in the Zapruder film, i.e., up to Z207, at which point he is looking off to the right of the motorcade.

[Tom Graves]

So let me get this straight: According to you, your supposed lone gunman fired at Z124 and somehow managed to miss the entire gigantic limousine with his easiest and closest shot? That's your scenario??? At Z124, the limo would have been less than 100 feet away. The gunman would have been able to take his time aiming for this shot, unlike his supposed two other shots. Yet, you're saying that he completely missed the massive 21 x 6.7-foot limousine with his closest and easiest shot, and then amazingly went two for two in 5.6 seconds, a performance that the three Master-rated riflemen in the WC's rifle test were unable to duplicate, even though they were firing from only 30 feet up and were firing at stationary target boards? Really??? That's your scenario???

What about the Z145-155 shot and the Z186-190 shot?

Z145-155

• There is a noticeable blur episode starting at around Z158.

• Connally starts to turn his head rapidly to the right at Z162.

• A 10-year-old girl named Rosemary Willis, running along the grass to the left of the limousine, begins to noticeably slow down between Z162 and Z174, and she is standing still by no later than Z187. When she was an adult, Ms. Willis explained that she stopped running because she heard a loud noise behind her.

Z186-190

• A strong blue episode starts at Z189.

• At right around Z199, JFK's waving motion suddenly freezes, he starts to turn his head to the right, and he starts to bring his hands inward.

• By Z202-204, Mrs. Kennedy has made a sudden sharp turn to the right, toward her husband. When she reemerges into view at Z223, she is looking intently at her husband (obviously her attention was drawn to him because the reaction that he had begun at around Z200 had become more noticeable while the car was behind the freeway sign).

• At Z207, Howard Brennan suddenly looks to his right.

• At the direction of the Secret Service, Special Agent John Howlett analyzed films of the shooting (mainly the Zapruder film) with the aid of a surveyor a few days after the assassination. He concluded that Kennedy was first hit at around Z199.

• Secret Service agent (SSA) George Hickey, seated in the left rear of the follow-up car, begins to turn his head to the right in Z195; he continues this motion for as long as he can be seen in the Zapruder film, i.e., up to Z207, at which point he is looking off to the right of the motorcade.

Dear Mike,

Oswald's shot at hypothetical "Z-124" was such a steeply downward-angled one (at a target that was rapidly angling away from him) that he had to stand and awkwardly lean forward to take it.

A 10-year-old girl named Rosemary Willis, running along the grass to the left of the limousine, looked back towards the TSBD while she was running even though the limousine was almost alongside her at the time.

Secret Service agent (SSA) George Hickey, seated in the left rear of the follow-up car, started looking down at the pavement at around Z-150. He later said he thought he saw part of a firecracker hit the pavement.

Governor Connally had quickly turned his head to his left before turning his head to his right at Z-162.

JFK probably stopped waving around Z-199 because the people he was waving to were probably already behind him and he probably didn't feel like waving to the Stemmons Freeway Sign.

At Z-207, Howard Brennan suddenly looks to his right?

WOWIE ZOWIE!

-- Tom

[Jarrett Smith]

The three shots, all from the sixth floor Sniper's Nest, were at hypothetical "Z-124," Z-222/223, and Z-313.

There was no shot at Z-124   

[Tom Graves]

There was no shot at Z-124

How do you know?

Btw, it's not "Z-124," it's "hypothetical 'Z-124'"

In other words, half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming.

[Royell Storing]

Storing,

If Zapruder had filmed continuously from the time the three motorcycle policemen turned onto Elm Street, his camera would have "captured" Oswald's first, missing everything shot at Z-124.

Does that help you understand a little bit better?

"Knott Lab Forensic Science" is the mother of all oxymorons, and you know it.

   How about a possible "missed" shot/"early" shot being fired from a 2nd Gun/2nd Gunman?