Windshield damage came from outside says ChapGPT & GROK... interesting...

[Jake Maxwell]

I submitted the windshield damage image from Kennedy's limo to ChatGPT, asking if the impact came from the inside or the outside...
Here's my question, and the interesting response in full...

We are looking from the outside... Did this crack come from inside or outside?



ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the image.
Since we're looking from the outside, here are some observations:
Key Features in the Crack Pattern:
The impact point appears raised or textured, suggesting the damage originated on the outside (where we are viewing it from).
The radial cracks (spiderweb lines) spread outward from a central point — typical of an outside-to-inside impact.
There is no visible delamination or raised area around the inner surface, which would be more common if the impact had originated from the inside.
Conclusion:
Based on this image and the perspective (outside looking in), this crack was caused by an object hitting the windshield from the outside. It does not appear to have originated from the inside.
If you’re analyzing for forensic or insurance purposes and need stronger confirmation, examining the feel and texture at the point of impact (outside vs. inside surface) and checking for cratering or glass flaking direction can help further.

[Jake Maxwell]

I submitted the windshield damage image from Kennedy's limo to ChatGPT, asking if the impact came from the inside or the outside...
Here's my question, and the interesting response in full...

We are looking from the outside... Did this crack come from inside or outside?



ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the image.
Since we're looking from the outside, here are some observations:
Key Features in the Crack Pattern:
The impact point appears raised or textured, suggesting the damage originated on the outside (where we are viewing it from).
The radial cracks (spiderweb lines) spread outward from a central point — typical of an outside-to-inside impact.
There is no visible delamination or raised area around the inner surface, which would be more common if the impact had originated from the inside.
Conclusion:
Based on this image and the perspective (outside looking in), this crack was caused by an object hitting the windshield from the outside. It does not appear to have originated from the inside.
If you’re analyzing for forensic or insurance purposes and need stronger confirmation, examining the feel and texture at the point of impact (outside vs. inside surface) and checking for cratering or glass flaking direction can help further.

I've wondered if SSA Bill Greer was also a target...
Maybe he knew too much...

[Zeon Mason]

Destroying the limo and windshield asap seems to be a poor choice by the FBI if they were following the Hoover directive that the public  must be convinced  there was no conspiracy.

Unless …there was something particular about the damage to the rearview mirror frame and windshield crack which they feared could be analyzed  with some method to show micro traces of metallic fragments that differed from what would be left by MC bullet fragments.
 
Or an analysis that could determine with certainty that the crack in the windshield could only be caused from a projectile hitting the front of the windshield. ( or that it was a hole)

If there was a shot from the front of the limo, was Greer the target?

Killing the driver of the limo would probably bring the limo to a stop or slow down , thus affording an easier kill shot aimed at JFK by a sniper from behind the limo.

Why did not a rear shooter take the shot at Greer? Perhaps because Mrs C and Jackie were obstacles and or the shooters did not wish to harm the popular Jackie or the wife of the neocon pro MIC governor. The only target was the “traitorous communist sympathizer” JFK.

Shooting from the east side of the Triple U bridge (with a suppressed rifle), that snipers LOS  angle to Greer was a fairly safe shot that could avoid hitting Mrs C, Governor C , or Jackie( presuming the shooter was relatively skilled at shooting laterally moving targets)

If there was a front shooter located  at the east side of the Triple overpass , his shot aimed at Greer , would be a target moving laterally at 20mph. So the shooters lead adjustment might have been too much and the bullet struck the windshield instead of Greer.

Ironically, the resultant effect was the same, as Greer reacted by taking his foot off the accelerator and the limo slowed down to 8mph (or almost to a stop by some witness accounts)

Imo, Greer was NOT a conspirator , but was reacting in confusion as to where  the shots were coming from. Therefore, if there was a shot aimed at him, it was for purpose of stopping the limo or at least to slow it down, affording the a sniper from behind the limo an easier kill shot at JFK.

[Jake Maxwell]

Destroying the limo and windshield asap seems to be a poor choice by the FBI if they were following the Hoover directive that the public  must be convinced  there was no conspiracy.

Unless …there was something particular about the damage to the rearview mirror frame and windshield crack which they feared could be analyzed  with some method to show micro traces of metallic fragments that differed from what would be left by MC bullet fragments.
 
Or an analysis that could determine with certainty that the crack in the windshield could only be caused from a projectile hitting the front of the windshield. ( or that it was a hole)

If there was a shot from the front of the limo, was Greer the target?

Killing the driver of the limo would probably bring the limo to a stop or slow down , thus affording an easier kill shot aimed at JFK by a sniper from behind the limo.

Why did not a rear shooter take the shot at Greer? Perhaps because Mrs C and Jackie were obstacles and or the shooters did not wish to harm the popular Jackie or the wife of the neocon pro MIC governor. The only target was the “traitorous communist sympathizer” JFK.

Shooting from the east side of the Triple U bridge (with a suppressed rifle), that snipers LOS  angle to Greer was a fairly safe shot that could avoid hitting Mrs C, Governor C , or Jackie( presuming the shooter was relatively skilled at shooting laterally moving targets)

If there was a front shooter located  at the east side of the Triple overpass , his shot aimed at Greer , would be a target moving laterally at 20mph. So the shooters lead adjustment might have been too much and the bullet struck the windshield instead of Greer.

Ironically, the resultant effect was the same, as Greer reacted by taking his foot off the accelerator and the limo slowed down to 8mph (or almost to a stop by some witness accounts)

Imo, Greer was NOT a conspirator , but was reacting in confusion as to where  the shots were coming from. Therefore, if there was a shot aimed at him, it was for purpose of stopping the limo or at least to slow it down, affording the a sniper from behind the limo an easier kill shot at JFK.

No... Bill Greer was likely a key player in the assassination... slowing the limo at the planned kill zone... and rubber-necking until he saw the president shot. He says in one interview that he thought the first shot was a backfire, and then turned back to look... and when he saw blood running down Connally's shirt, he realized they were in trouble. Don't believe it. Connally's jacket covered most of his shirt... It's all made up to cover himself...

Bill Greer rubber-necks for one purpose... to verify that the president had been killed in the kill zone where, according to plan, he slows the car... THEN he turns to accelerate the car...

The windshield crack was possibly intended for him... Yes, it would have changed the scenario and the narrative that Oswald was a lone assassin... but there were likely several false narratives they planned to develop, all depending on the circumstances. The high level powers who wanted Kennedy out, realized they would have only one attempt, and tried very hard not to leave anything to chance...

[Jake Maxwell]

Greer does not respond and accelerate as he said, in response to seeing blood running down Connally's shirt...
He responds and accelerates after seeing the president shot and killed...
The limo was slowed for that purpose...
Got some really bad players on the stage...

[Jake Maxwell]

Toni Foster and her husband (stickman in Zapruder) says in her interview with Debra Conway (see Research Photographs for full interview) that the limo stopped, and she says it four times!...

"I know the Governor and Mrs. Connally were there but I wasn't even thinking of them. I don't mean that in an inconsiderate way but it's just what I saw. They were protecting themselves too. For some reason the car stopped. It did stop for seconds. I don't ever know why it stopped and all of a sudden it sped up and they went under the underpass.
I could never figure out why the car stopped. [Mrs. Kennedy] started crawling out the back of the car crying and screaming (whatever it was she was screaming, I can't remember...)."


I'm guessing that most of us know why the car stopped... SSA Bill Greer was taking care of business...

[Michael T. Griffith]

Here are some useful videos on the windshield damage and the illegal replacement of the windshield.

[Tim Nickerson]

I submitted the windshield damage image from Kennedy's limo to ChatGPT, asking if the impact came from the inside or the outside...
Here's my question, and the interesting response in full...

We are looking from the outside... Did this crack come from inside or outside?



ChatGPT said:
Thanks for the image.
Since we're looking from the outside, here are some observations:
Key Features in the Crack Pattern:
The impact point appears raised or textured, suggesting the damage originated on the outside (where we are viewing it from).
The radial cracks (spiderweb lines) spread outward from a central point — typical of an outside-to-inside impact.
There is no visible delamination or raised area around the inner surface, which would be more common if the impact had originated from the inside.
Conclusion:
Based on this image and the perspective (outside looking in), this crack was caused by an object hitting the windshield from the outside. It does not appear to have originated from the inside.
If you’re analyzing for forensic or insurance purposes and need stronger confirmation, examining the feel and texture at the point of impact (outside vs. inside surface) and checking for cratering or glass flaking direction can help further.

Mr. SPECTER - Did you have occasion then to examine the windshield of the Presidential limousine?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes; I did.
Mr. SPECTER - What did that examination disclose?
Mr. FRAZIER - On the inside surface of the windshield there was a deposit of lead. This deposit was located when you look at the inside surface of the windshield, 13 1/2 inches down from the top, 23 inches from the left-hand side or driver's side of the windshield, and was immediately in front of a small pattern of star-shaped cracks which appeared in the outer layer of the laminated windshield.
Mr. DULLES - What do you mean by the "outer layer of the laminated windshield"?
Mr. FRAZIER - The windshield is composed of two layers with a very thin layer of plastic in between which bonds them together in the form of safety glass. The inside layer of the glass was not broken, but the outside layer immediately on the outside of the lead residue had a very small pattern of cracks and there was a very minute particle of glass missing from the outside surface.
Mr. DULLES - And the outside surface was the surface away from where the occupants were sitting?
Mr. FRAZIER - That is correct; yes.
Mr. DULLES - And the inside surface was the surface nearest the occupants?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - What do those characteristics indicate as to which side of the windshield was struck?
Mr. FRAZIER - It indicates that it could only have been struck on the inside surface. It could not have been struck on the outside surface because of the manner in which the glass broke and further because of the lead residue on the inside surface. The cracks appear in the outer layer of the glass because the glass is bent outward at the time of impact which stretches the outer layer of the glass to the point where these small radial or wagon spoke-wagon wheel spoke-type cracks appear on the outer surface.
Mr. DULLES - So the pressure must have come from the inside and not from the outside against the glass?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; that is correct.
Mr. DULLES - As far as the car is concerned from the back to the front?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES - Not from outside against the glass--from the front against the glass.
Mr. FRAZIER - That is right.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm