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Offline Jake Maxwell

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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2025, 09:05:03 PM »
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AND... "I would say there is a very good possibility there was somebody back there (a second gunman behind the fence), but they had a silencer..."

"Did [the shots] come from the 6th floor window, being fired by Oswald? I don't know and I would never say I did... I find that the hardest to believe."

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2025, 09:08:23 PM »
"Did [the shots] come from the 6th floor window, being fired by Oswald? I don't know and I would never say I did... I find that the hardest to believe."


"I have no qualms saying I'm almost sure there was someone behind the fence, or in that area."
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2025, 09:12:19 PM »

"I have no qualms saying I'm almost sure there was someone behind the fence, or in that area."

"There could have been two simultaneous shots [made] at the same time [that opened his head]"
« Last Edit: May 03, 2025, 12:11:49 AM by Jake Maxwell »

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2025, 11:29:33 PM »
Charles: Thanks, I think that was part of it. I remember reading something about the 6th Floor Museum receiving the "raw" notes from an editor or reporter for a Dallas paper. I believe it was an editor who gave them the notes he had from the reporters in the field. I would guess that that would be "clean" information free from any influence of the news about the shots, et cetera.


Here’s more information:

“About This Book”

  In May 1964, the top editors of the Dallas Morning News decided to collect the recollections of all staffers who took part in covering the Kennedy assassination.


Include anecdotes, personal observations and anything else that will reflect the tone of the time as well as indicate the thoroughness of our coverage,” assistant managing editor Bill Rives wrote in a memo to the staff. The original plan was for the writings to be published individually and not as part of one long narrative.




So, this may not be what you are looking for. But it does seem like (to me anyway) that they would tend to write that they heard a number other than three shots (if any of them did). None of them have said in these writings that I can find that they heard anything other than three shots.

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2025, 12:14:08 AM »


Sitzman certainly wasn't an LN'r... too bad the Warren Commission had no interest in her testimony...

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Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2025, 04:47:03 PM »

Here’s more information:

“About This Book”

  In May 1964, the top editors of the Dallas Morning News decided to collect the recollections of all staffers who took part in covering the Kennedy assassination.


Include anecdotes, personal observations and anything else that will reflect the tone of the time as well as indicate the thoroughness of our coverage,” assistant managing editor Bill Rives wrote in a memo to the staff. The original plan was for the writings to be published individually and not as part of one long narrative.




So, this may not be what you are looking for. But it does seem like (to me anyway) that they would tend to write that they heard a number other than three shots (if any of them did). None of them have said in these writings that I can find that they heard anything other than three shots.

Here is fun fact. There were 70 news reporters in Dealey Plaza, James Altgens is the only eyewitness news reporter, positioned 25 feet from the limo and he stated there were two shots. Everyone else is an earwitness. Despite the WC trying to get a three shot response from him, he told them he only heard two. Altgens news flash was read by Don Pardo on ABC after CBS's Walter Cronkite- Merriman Smith's three shot news flash.

Make sure when you are making these declarations that you understand how varied and influenced these people really were. There is no way to quantify these people's statements into categories without setting parameters that define them.




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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2025, 05:23:06 PM »
Here is fun fact. There were 70 news reporters in Dealey Plaza, James Altgens is the only eyewitness news reporter, positioned 25 feet from the limo and he stated there were two shots. Everyone else is an earwitness. Despite the WC trying to get a three shot response from him, he told them he only heard two. Altgens news flash was read by Don Pardo on ABC after CBS's Walter Cronkite- Merriman Smith's three shot news flash.

Make sure when you are making these declarations that you understand how varied and influenced these people really were. There is no way to quantify these people's statements into categories without setting parameters that define them.

  Altgens also disputed where they placed him there on Elm St inside Dealey Plaza. He claimed he was further East on Elm St. His claim was based on his camera settings. He said based on where they were placing him on Elm St vs his camera settings, his picture of JFK through the Limo windshield with the TSBD doorway in the background would have never come out. Altgens also testified that after crossing Elm St, he then followed law enforcement UP the Knoll. None of this is captured on any JFK assassination images. 

Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2025, 08:25:02 PM »
  Altgens also disputed where they placed him there on Elm St inside Dealey Plaza. He claimed he was further East on Elm St. His claim was based on his camera settings. He said based on where they were placing him on Elm St vs his camera settings, his picture of JFK through the Limo windshield with the TSBD doorway in the background would have never come out. Altgens also testified that after crossing Elm St, he then followed law enforcement UP the Knoll. None of this is captured on any JFK assassination images.

The earwitness/eyewitness debates remind of "The Invisible Gorilla." You are asked to count how many times the people dressed in white pass the basketball. In the middle of the video, a gorilla walks in. More than half of the viewers miss the gorilla, and many insist there was no gorilla when informed there was. There are many similar tests where some outrageously dressed character runs into a classroom, shoots the professor several times, and runs out. The students' recollections are all over the map.

The JFKA is like "the killer in the classroom" times 100, and Dealey Plaza is an almost perfect echo chamber.

https://www.npr.org/2010/05/19/126977945/bet-you-didnt-notice-the-invisible-gorilla

I really don't know how anyone misses the gorilla, but the giraffe is trickier.



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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2025, 08:25:02 PM »