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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2025, 01:01:46 AM »
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There was always only one Oswald wallet

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Oswald’s 5 wallets

1. the arrest wallet, FBI Exhibit B-1, which Dallas police said Oswald had in his pants pocket when they arrested him.

2. a brown billfold, FBI Exhibit 114, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

3. a red billfold, FBI Exhibit 382, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

4. a black plastic billfold, found in the dresser drawer of Marina Oswald's bedroom at the Paine house with $170 in cash.

5. the Tippit murder scene wallet described by Dallas FBI agent, Bob Barrett and Dallas Police Sergeant Kenneth Croy and depicted in film footage taken that day by television station WFAA.


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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2025, 01:06:13 AM »
Gerald Hill told the Commission that two names were read from the wallet (by Bentley) while in the car on the way to headquarters.

Gerald Hill was interviewed on the day of the arrest and said, “The only way we found out what his name was, was to remove his billfold and check it ourselves; he wouldn’t even tell us what his name was.” Later in the interview a reporter asked, “What was the name on the billfold?” Hill replied, “Lee H. Oswald, O-S-W-A-L-D”. No mention of Hidell. Why not?


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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2025, 01:47:45 AM »
BS:

Oswald’s 5 wallets

1. the arrest wallet, FBI Exhibit B-1, which Dallas police said Oswald had in his pants pocket when they arrested him.

2. a brown billfold, FBI Exhibit 114, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

3. a red billfold, FBI Exhibit 382, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

4. a black plastic billfold, found in the dresser drawer of Marina Oswald's bedroom at the Paine house with $170 in cash.

5. the Tippit murder scene wallet described by Dallas FBI agent, Bob Barrett and Dallas Police Sergeant Kenneth Croy and depicted in film footage taken that day by television station WFAA.

Thanks for reminding us about the other three  :(

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #75 on: May 02, 2025, 03:53:05 AM »
BS:

Oswald’s 5 wallets

1. the arrest wallet, FBI Exhibit B-1, which Dallas police said Oswald had in his pants pocket when they arrested him.

2. a brown billfold, FBI Exhibit 114, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

3. a red billfold, FBI Exhibit 382, found in the house of Ruth Paine.

4. a black plastic billfold, found in the dresser drawer of Marina Oswald's bedroom at the Paine house with $170 in cash.

5. the Tippit murder scene wallet described by Dallas FBI agent, Bob Barrett and Dallas Police Sergeant Kenneth Croy and depicted in film footage taken that day by television station WFAA.

1. Yes Oswald's wallet.

2. ...found in the house of Ruth Paine LOL! You can't make this up!

3. ...found in the house of Ruth Paine Double LOL!! You really can't make this up.!!

4. Marina's wallet.

5. What, the decades old memory of a wallet of a potential murderer that was never broadcast on the Police radio and was never recorded, that wallet?? Hahahaha!

Btw Iacoletti, next time try harder, MUCH harder.

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #76 on: May 02, 2025, 03:58:50 AM »
Gerald Hill was interviewed on the day of the arrest and said, “The only way we found out what his name was, was to remove his billfold and check it ourselves; he wouldn’t even tell us what his name was.” Later in the interview a reporter asked, “What was the name on the billfold?” Hill replied, “Lee H. Oswald, O-S-W-A-L-D”. No mention of Hidell. Why not?

Because, the guy's name was in fact "Lee Harvey Oswald". Duh!

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2025, 01:37:55 PM »
Perhaps you can provide the "logic" behind ordering a gun using an alias, killing the president with it, and carrying around an ID that day with that very same name on it.

Or is it only CT scenarios that have to pass the Lance Payette "logic" test?

Gee, I'll try. This requires pretty heavy reasoning, but I'll give it a shot (pun!) ...

1. You order a rifle in March because (1) you're interested in guns and, (2) perhaps something like the Walker attempt is already a gleam in your eye.

                    Pretty logical so far, no?

2. When you make an almost spur-of-the-moment decision to shoot JFK in November, you choose to use the rifle you already own.

                    Still doing pretty well here, it seems to me - yes?

3. You are going to shoot from the sixth floor of your place of work, make no attempt to disguise yourself, leave your rifle with its serial number intact on the sixth floor, and have minimal likelihood of surviving anyway. You know there is already a paper trail establishing your purchase of the rifle, photos of you holding the rifle, and a wife and others who know of your ownership of the rifle. Ergo, whether you have a Hidell ID in your wallet is rather inconsequential. Indeed, the ID may even come in handy if the police are looking for one Lee Harvey Oswald from TSBD and you can produce an ID of Alek Hidell. If you are actually arrested for the murder of JFK or Tippit, the contents of your wallet are going to be the least of your problems.

                    Voila, our pristine chain of logic is complete - no?

Do not attempt to argue logic with the swami, especially if your reasoning does not extend beyond inane one-liners with which you flood the forum when "Martin" allows you out of the sock puppet closet.

The swami observes that Team Sock Puppet has still failed to provide anything resembling a rational and coherent explanation as to why a dark and sinister conspiracy-oriented theory of the Multi-Wallet Mystery makes any sense.

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2025, 01:47:56 PM »
Gerald Hill was interviewed on the day of the arrest and said, “The only way we found out what his name was, was to remove his billfold and check it ourselves; he wouldn’t even tell us what his name was.” Later in the interview a reporter asked, “What was the name on the billfold?” Hill replied, “Lee H. Oswald, O-S-W-A-L-D”. No mention of Hidell. Why not?

Oh, wow. these brain-twisters are so difficult that even the swami's head is aching, but he will give it another shot ...

1. Because Hill by this point knew the suspect's actual name was Oswald. Makes sense - no?

2. Because at this point the name Hidell was of no particular significance except as a fake ID in the wallet. Makes sense - no?

The sloppy Hill likewise failed to say "The wallet also contained photos of an unidentified woman and an infant wrapped in swaddling, which we believe may be additional disguises used by the suspect."

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2025, 03:46:09 PM »
Gee, I'll try. This requires pretty heavy reasoning, but I'll give it a shot (pun!) ...

1. You order a rifle in March because (1) you're interested in guns and, (2) perhaps something like the Walker attempt is already a gleam in your eye.

                    Pretty logical so far, no?

2. When you make an almost spur-of-the-moment decision to shoot JFK in November, you choose to use the rifle you already own.

                    Still doing pretty well here, it seems to me - yes?

3. You are going to shoot from the sixth floor of your place of work, make no attempt to disguise yourself, leave your rifle with its serial number intact on the sixth floor, and have minimal likelihood of surviving anyway. You know there is already a paper trail establishing your purchase of the rifle, photos of you holding the rifle, and a wife and others who know of your ownership of the rifle. Ergo, whether you have a Hidell ID in your wallet is rather inconsequential. Indeed, the ID may even come in handy if the police are looking for one Lee Harvey Oswald from TSBD and you can produce an ID of Alek Hidell. If you are actually arrested for the murder of JFK or Tippit, the contents of your wallet are going to be the least of your problems.

                    Voila, our pristine chain of logic is complete - no?

Do not attempt to argue logic with the swami, especially if your reasoning does not extend beyond inane one-liners with which you flood the forum when "Martin" allows you out of the sock puppet closet.

The swami observes that Team Sock Puppet has still failed to provide anything resembling a rational and coherent explanation as to why a dark and sinister conspiracy-oriented theory of the Multi-Wallet Mystery makes any sense.

inane one-liners with which you flood the forum when "Martin" allows you out of the sock puppet closet.

I was living rent free in John Mytton's head. Did I somehow move to your head now? Talk about obsession!


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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
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