JFKA CTs need to believe a government agency or rogue actors thereof killed JFK

[Tom Graves]

No, the problem is that I know too much about US intelligence operations outside of the Kennedy assassination.

I’ve read biographies on Allan Dulles, James Angelton, and various books about covert operations abroad. I’ve studied COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, CHAOS, etc.

It’s not just my political biases but also the pattern of behavior of our national security state which leads me to believe it’s plausible that they were complicit in the Kennedy assassination.

I hear you, Bro.

The evil, evil CIA did all of those nasty, nasty things against the world-class humanitarian organizations known as the KGB* and the GRU!!!

You know what's really groovy? Comrade Morley's book, The Ghost, about James JESUS Angleton!!! (Even though he still believes Yuri Nosenko was a true defector.)

Peace, Bro!!!

Why don't you do yourself a favor and google probable mole "Bruce Leonard Solie," and CIA good-guy, "Tennent H. Bagley," for starters?

*Today's SVR and FSB

[Jon Banks]

I think 90% of those on the Far Left and on the Far Right believe the JFK assassination was committed by the evil, evil, evil CIA (or rogue agents thereof).

Steve is correct that there are factions of the far-Left who follow Noam Chomsky’s view of the JFK assassination. Chomsky doesn’t believe Kennedy wanted to get out of Vietnam (Chomsky has been proven wrong since the 90s) and he doesn’t believe there was a conspiracy.

There’s definitely not universal or 90% support for opposition to the LN narrative on the Left.

[Tom Graves]

Coming from anyone else this might be a serious question but coming from a guy who believes Russia and Putin are behind almost every event in history it is unintentionally hilarious.  All baseless conspiracy theories from UFO to Bigfoot to JFK assassination need a government conspiracy by necessity to explain why they can never prove their pet conspiracy.   Why?  Because the government men in black are always just a step ahead to cover it up.

We know for a fact that the KGB created "Operation Infektion," so it wouldn't surprise me if it has pushed "Flying Saucers Are Real," "The Alien Presence," and "Big Foot" garbage, as well.

Why don't you look it up, Smith?

Not to mention its publishing an anti-CIA / anti-Clay Shaw article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (Paese Sera) three days after an overly-ambitious, scandal-plagued and revengeful New Orleans DA by the name of Jim Garrison had arrested Shaw for the JFKA, which article motivated him to change his theory against Shaw from "He masterminded a homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK!!!" to "He supervised it for the CIA!!!"

[Steve M. Galbraith]

No, the problem is that I know too much about US intelligence operations outside of the Kennedy assassination.

I’ve read biographies on Allan Dulles, James Angelton, and various books about covert operations abroad. I’ve studied COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, CHAOS, etc.

It’s not just my political biases but also the pattern of behavior of our national security state which leads me to believe it’s plausible that they were complicit in the Kennedy assassination.

But your problem here is that almost all of that was approved or ordered by Presidents (Cointelpro was done by the FBI). E.g., the covert war on Cuba essentially ended after JFK was killed. Why do you think that happened? Did you read the Weiner book on the CIA? The nasty stuff was on orders of Presidents. Ike, JFK, Nixon. I think that's why leftists like I.F. Stone and Chomsky, and a few others, didn't and don't believe in the "CIA did it" conspiracy. They knew who JFK was and they knew that many of the awful things the CIA did was on orders. It wasn't a rogue agency.

The idea that the CIA did bad things A, B, and C (and they did terrible things) means they killed their own President and then others went along to cover it up is preposterous. You are not talking about the national security state. You are talking about almost the entire government and news media.

You don't actually think someone like Hersh would cover this up? The same people who exposed the abuses you mentioned have covered up for the murder of JFK? That's completely illogical.

[Jon Banks]

Coming from anyone else this might be a serious question but coming from a guy who believes Russia and Putin are behind almost every event in history it is unintentionally hilarious.  All baseless conspiracy theories from UFO to Bigfoot to JFK assassination need a government conspiracy by necessity to explain why they can never prove their pet conspiracy.   Why?  Because the government men in black are always just a step ahead to cover it up.

Well we know for a fact that several government agencies participated in cover-ups relating to the Kennedy assassination. Both the FBI and CIA admit it. Other agencies haven't gone as far in admitting to cover ups but we know the Secret Service and Defense Dept suppressed some evidence too. What we don't know is "why" the need for a cover up when LHO was just "a lone loser"?

[Jon Banks]

I hear you, Bro.

The evil, evil CIA did all of those nasty, nasty things against the world-class humanitarian organizations known as the KGB* and the GRU!!!

You know what's really groovy? Comrade Morley's book, The Ghost, about James JESUS Angleton!!! (Even though he still believes Yuri Nosenko was a true defector.)

Peace, Bro!!!

Why don't you do yourself a favor and google probable mole "Bruce Leonard Solie," and CIA good-guy, "Tennent H. Bagley," for starters?

*Today's SVR and FSB

The KGB/GRU does bad things to both good and bad people.

The CIA/FBI does bad things to both good and bad people.

Democracy is real and makes us superior to Russia but American Exceptionalism is not real. Our government does bad things and lies to us too…

[Tom Graves]

The KGB/GRU does bad things to both good and bad people.

The CIA/FBI does bad things to both good and bad people. Democracy is real and makes us superior to Russia but American Exceptionalism is not real. Our government does bad things and lies to us too…

The KGB* (under one of its earlier names) murdered 2 - 3 million people in Ukraine in the 1930s by confiscating their harvests and letting them starve to death, millions of Soviet citizens were killed in "the Gulag" under Stalin and Soviet dictators, and your buddy, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, murdered 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings so that he could become president and start the Second Chechen War and oh yeah, help Assad bomb and poison people in Syria, etc, etc.

*Today's SVR and FSB