JFKA CTs need to believe a government agency or rogue actors thereof killed JFK

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Online Tom Graves

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I admit that as a Progressive Democrat, I’m guilty as charged.

Given all the horrible things the FBI and CIA have done at home and abroad, I don’t think it’s implausible that individuals connected to those agencies were complicit in a plot to kill a US president.

I understand that some people think that the US national security state plotting against a US President is a bridge too far for plausibility. But I personally don’t believe it’s implausible given what we know (confirmed history, not conspiracy theories) about the unethical things that individuals and leaders within those agencies have done.

And yes, I agree that an individual’s political views and biases play a role in how they interpret the facts of the JFK assassination investigations. Bias is unavoidable regardless of which side of this issue you fall on.

I believe it’s plausible that the mafia and other non-state actors were involved (the mafia collaborated with the military and CIA between WW2 and the 1960s) but certain things involving Oswald pre and post assassination can only be explained in the context of intelligence operations.

The problem is, Lefty-Banksie, you probably think The Cold War ended in December 1991, and that even before that, the KGB* and the GRU were world-class (pardon the pun) humanitarian organizations, right?

*Today's SVR and FSB
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Offline Jon Banks

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The KGB* has been waging Sun Tzu-based deception, "active measures," and "Inside Man" / "Outside Man" strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies since 1959, and they finally paid off in 2016 when our body politic had become so cynical, paranoiac, and apathetic that Putin, with a little help from his GRU and FSB hackers, Julian Assange, his professional Saint Petersburg trolls, Roger Stone, Harley Schlanger, Paul Manafort, Konstantin Kilimnik, Oleg Deripaska, et al. ad nauseam, was able to get The Traitorous Orange Bird elected as our "President."

Mueller's biggest shortcoming was that he conducted a criminal investigation when he should have conducted a counterintelligence investigation.

Regardless, why are you calling me "Vladdy," punk?


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Because you’re sowing discord. For all we know, YOU could be the KGB troll. 🧌

And you don’t even have the honesty to admit that you’re speculating about Russia’s role in our elections.

There’s no proof that Trump didn’t win the 2016 and 2024 elections fair and square.

I say this as a lifelong Democrat who was honest enough to admit that the Russiagate conspiracy theories were full of gaping holes…
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Online Tom Graves

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Because you’re sowing discord. For all we know, YOU could be the KGB troll. 🧌

And you don’t even have the honesty to admit that you’re speculating about Russia’s role in our elections.

There’s no proof that Trump didn’t win the 2016 and 2024 elections fair and square.

I say this as a lifelong Democrat who was honest enough to admit that the Russiagate conspiracy theories were full of gaping holes…

And you've always thought the CIA was much more evil than the KGB*, right?

*Today's SVR and FSB

Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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I think 90% of those on the Far Left and on the Far Right believe the JFK assassination was committed by the evil, evil, evil CIA (or rogue agents thereof).
But the Left believes it because they think JFK was some sort of threat to the "national security state". He was going to, in their view, end the Cold War (or greatly reduce it), get out of Vietnam, normalize relations with Castro and so on. That is, essentially overturn the containment policies the US created after WWII. Plus, they think those policies were immoral and wrong and that the US was the chief cause of the Cold War anyway.

So the CIA had to kill him.

I don't think the Far Right sees JFK as that sort of president. They certainly don't think the Cold War was caused by the US, that the communists weren't a threat. So why they think JFK was killed by the "deep state" is a mystery to me.

Offline Jon Banks

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The problem is, Lefty-Banksie, you probably think The Cold War ended in December 1991, and that even before that, the KGB* and the GRU were world-class (pardon the pun) humanitarian organizations, right?

*Today's SVR and FSB

No, the problem is that I know too much about US intelligence operations outside of the Kennedy assassination.

I’ve read biographies on Allan Dulles, James Angelton, and various books about covert operations abroad. I’ve studied COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, CHAOS, etc.

It’s not just my political biases but also the pattern of behavior of our national security state which leads me to believe it’s plausible that they were complicit in the Kennedy assassination.

Online Tom Graves

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[T]he US was the chief cause of the Cold War anyway.

Right on!!!

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Offline Richard Smith

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JFKA conspiracy theorists psychologically need to believe that a governmental agency, or rogue actors thereof, killed JFK.

Thoughts?

Feelings?

Borderline-hysterical rants?

Coming from anyone else this might be a serious question but coming from a guy who believes Russia and Putin are behind almost every event in history it is unintentionally hilarious.  All baseless conspiracy theories from UFO to Bigfoot to JFK assassination need a government conspiracy by necessity to explain why they can never prove their pet conspiracy.   Why?  Because the government men in black are always just a step ahead to cover it up.