Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.

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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2025, 04:42:06 PM »
No, it doesn't. Tuohy specifically concedes the stretcher see saw could have come from anywhere in the ER area, including Trauma Room 2. Your video conveniently omits that portion of the HSCA interview. Tuohy said nothing inconsistent with CE 399.

The origins of CE399 are inconclusive. Neither Tomlinson nor Tuohy confirmed that it was Connolly's stretcher.

The fact is, no one knows for certain how CE399 ended up on a stretcher at Parkland.

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2025, 04:44:29 PM »
The origins of CE399 are inconclusive. Neither Tomlinson nor Tuohy confirmed that it was Connolly's stretcher.

The fact is, no one knows for certain how CE399 ended up on a stretcher at Parkland.
Yes, that I absolutely agree with.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2025, 09:48:27 PM »
To clarify, Phyllis Hall said she saw a bullet on Kennedy's stretcher and Tuohy's testimony strongly implies that she too saw a bullet on Kennedy's stretcher, not Connolly's.

So either there were multiple stretchers with multiple bullets on them or CE399 was misreported as found on JBC's stretcher.

Phyllis Hall made two different statements about seeing a bullet.

"and ON THE CART, halfway between the earlobe and the shoulder, there was a bullet laying almost perpendicular there."

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I could see a bullet lodged between his ear and his shoulder

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2025, 07:29:11 PM »
One fly in the ointment is that in 1967 when Tink Thompson interviewed Wright, Wright insisted the found bullet had been a pointy-tipped hunting slug just like the one he weirdly produced from his desk drawer. Anyone can make of this what they will, but it seems just a bit unlikely that the found bullet was just as "pristine" as CE 399 but was not CE 399.

It "seems unlikely".  Brilliant rebuttal.

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A second fly in the ointment, more relevant here, is that in 2002 an aged Odum denied to Thompson and Aguilar that he had ever gone to Parkland and shown CE 399 to Tomlinson and Wright as CE 2011 states. As far as I know, there was no follow up before Odum died in 2010. This of course is fodder for CT theorizing, but all it really suggests is that CE 2011 may have been in error and someone else may have gone to Parkland on June 12, 1964. (We do not know who wrote CE 2011.)

It also "suggests" that the entire thing was fabricated.  Particularly since CE 2011 is an anonymously written third-hand account.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2025, 07:31:55 PM »
The fact is, no one knows for certain how CE399 ended up on a stretcher at Parkland.

Or even if...

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2025, 01:42:06 AM »
Or even if...

Iacoletti,

Do you agree that CE-399 had been fired from the short-rifle that "allegedly" belonged to Oswald?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Why CE399 is Entirely Bogus.
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2025, 02:12:26 AM »
Or even if...

So Tomlinson at around 1 o'clock just happened to come across a whole bullet on a stretcher that came from another shooting incident? WOW!

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