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Offline Watson Phillips

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One of the first things thrown at Oswald in custody being interrogated  was FBI Agent Hosty asking Him if he had been to the embassy in Mexico City !
A question the FBI already knew the answer to of course.
In fact every question they asked him , questions which had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination itself: WERE YOU IN THE MILITARY ?   DID YOU RECEIVE ANY MEDALS? HAVE YOU BEEN TO RUSSIA?
were questions they already had all the answers to.

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

And Oswald makes clear that he was aware that for some length of time he could not fart without the FBI/CIA knowing about it .
It is obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that as far as the FBI was concerned Oswald was not even supposed to be breathing at this point  and they were gauging just how he was going to play his cards, & how many beans he was going to spill given the chance to spill them, before he could be silenced .
Little wonder that no intention of making a live recording of the United States President's assassin under questioning was even attempted .
What a mistake it would be to have the Assassin suddenly blurt out that "yes I killed the President "  and have it all on tape ????
What experienced Law Enforcement investigator would ever make such a career ending mistake as thinking having a recording device turned on at the moment the killer confesses was a smart thing to do ???
What I really want to know is with the FBI/CIA crawling right up Oswald's behind , watching his every move weeks before the president came to town how in the world was there not a couple dozen agents from each agency waiting to pounce on him like a duck on a June bug as he took up his snipers position in that sixth floor window ?
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Question #1: What were the names of the people in the FBI/CIA who were following his "every move"? The agent's names please.

Question #2: If they were following every move he made why did the FBI agent assigned to monitor him, James Hosty, say he didn't know where Oswald lived during the week? The Beckley Street rooming house?  And who in the CIA was following him? Again, what agents? Names, please? How were they following his every move?

Not only were they not, in my opinion, following his every move they didn't know where he lived during the week. Nobody did. Not from October 3 when he arrived in Dallas from Mexico City to the assassination. And Hosty only learned that Oswald was living at the Paine house on weekends on October 30.

Here is Hosty (WC testimony) on the first interview with Ruth (pre-assassination):
Mr. HOSTY. Yes; that is my recollection that we looked it [where Oswald was working] up in her telephone book to show it at 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Tex.
She told me at this time that she did not know where he was living, but she thought she could find out and she would let me know."

So Hosty says he didn't know where Oswald was living. How could he be monitoring Oswald's moves if he didn't know this?

Again: Could you provide the names of the FBI/CIA agents who were monitoring Oswald during that period?

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Question #1: What were the names of the people in the FBI/CIA who were following his "every move"? The agent's names please.

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

Page 2, paragraph 1,  FBI Dallas Chief Bookhout requests that FBI Agent Hosty be allowed to question Oswald because " he knew about these people & has been investigating them"


Page 3, paragraph 2, Oswald complains that FBI Agent Hosty  has been accosting and harassing his wife .



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Question #2: If they were following every move he made why did the FBI agent assigned to monitor him, James Hosty, say he didn't know where Oswald lived during the week? The Beckley Street rooming house?  And who in the CIA was following him? Again, what agents? Names, please? How were they following his every move?


Agent Hosty also asked Oswald if he had been in the military .
Do you believe agent Hosty was asking Oswald if he had been in the military because the FBI did not know ?

Agent Hosty also asked Oswald if he had been to Russia .
Do you really believe the FBI was not sure if Oswald had been to Russia ?
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One of the first things thrown at Oswald in custody being interrogated  was FBI Agent Hosty asking Him if he had been to the embassy in Mexico City !
A question the FBI already knew the answer to of course.
In fact every question they asked him , questions which had absolutely nothing to do with the assassination itself: WERE YOU IN THE MILITARY ?   DID YOU RECEIVE ANY MEDALS? HAVE YOU BEEN TO RUSSIA?
were questions they already had all the answers to.

https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

And Oswald makes clear that he was aware that for some length of time he could not fart without the FBI/CIA knowing about it .
It is obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that as far as the FBI was concerned Oswald was not even supposed to be breathing at this point  and they were gauging just how he was going to play his cards, & how many beans he was going to spill given the chance to spill them, before he could be silenced .
Little wonder that no intention of making a live recording of the United States President's assassin under questioning was even attempted .
What a mistake it would be to have the Assassin suddenly blurt out that "yes I killed the President "  and have it all on tape ????
What experienced Law Enforcement investigator would ever make such a career ending mistake as thinking having a recording device turned on at the moment the killer confesses was a smart thing to do ???
What I really want to know is with the FBI/CIA crawling right up Oswald's behind , watching his every move weeks before the president came to town how in the world was there not a couple dozen agents from each agency waiting to pounce on him like a duck on a June bug as he took up his snipers position in that sixth floor window ?

Blimey, yer full of bloody beans!
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https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wr/pdf/WR_A11_ReportsDPD.pdf

Page 2, paragraph 1,  FBI Dallas Chief Bookhout requests that FBI Agent Hosty be allowed to question Oswald because " he knew about these people & has been investigating them"


Page 3, paragraph 2, Oswald complains that FBI Agent Hosty  has been accosting and harassing his wife .

Sorry, that is not evidence of anyone monitoring "every move" that Oswald made. James Hosty HIMSELF said he didn't know where Oswald was living during the week. If he didn't know where Oswald lived - the N. Beckley rooming house - then how could he be monitoring Oswald at all? He didn't know he lived there.

And even though he knew Oswald lived with Ruth Paine during the week how is that monitoring "every move" Oswald made? It's not. It's not monitoring any move. Did Hosty know what Oswald did on the weekends? Where Oswald went? Who he met? Of course not.

Hosty testified that he was informed that the Oswalds had moved into the Dallas area (no address given) on October 3. But he NO IDEA where they were living. If he didn't know where they were living how could he be monitoring Oswald at all?

Here is his testimony:
Mr. STERN. What did you do on October 3 and thereafter?
Mr. HOSTY. Well, there wasn't too much to go on, just a woman driving a station wagon with a Texas license plate. I went to the immigration office to check to see if they had any information, tried to determine if we had any persons around the area, I tried to think of anyone who spoke Russian who had a station wagon and who was a friend of Marina Oswald's. I went to Fort Worth and checked in his old neighborhood, Lee and Marina's old neighborhood, attempted to locate Robert Oswald, his brother, and determined that Robert Oswald had left the Fort Worth area, had moved to Arkansas.
I then sent out a lead to the Little Rock office which covered the area of Malvern, Ark., where Robert Oswald was living, and requested that he be contacted to see if he knew where Lee Oswald was. Then I continued checking through the Dallas and Fort Worth area attempting to determine if the Oswalds had returned to the Dallas or Fort Worth areas.

So he had no idea where Oswald was living. None. This is not monitoring "every move" by Oswald. In fact, it's not monitoring any move.

Hosty said he learned on OCTOBER 29TH that the Oswalds were living with Ruth Paine.

Mr. HOSTY. Very much so, yes. I became curious then. Shortly thereafter, on the 29th of October, I received another communication from the New Orleans office advising that they had a change of address for Lee and Marina Oswald to 2515 West Fifth Street, Irving, Tex.
Mr. STERN. You received that information when?
Mr. HOSTY. On the 29th of October.

So from October 3 to October 29th Hosty had no idea where Oswald lived. And he never knew where Oswald lived during the week.

Again, nobody was monitoring Oswald's "every move."







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Here is Hosty below admitting that he didn't know where Oswald lived during the week. If he didn't know where Oswald lived then how could he be monitoring "every move" Oswald made? Obviously he couldn't. Were there *any* other FBI or CIA agent monitoring Oswald? None have been offered.

Hosty (WC testimony) on the first interview with Ruth Paine (pre-assassination):
Mr. HOSTY. Yes; that is my recollection that we looked it [where Oswald was working] up in her telephone book to show it at 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Tex.
She told me at this time that she did not know where he was living, but she thought she could find out and she would let me know."

Again, they didn't know where Oswald was living.

In Hosty's book, he said he interviewed Ruth after the assassination and she said: "You know, Mr. Hosty, when you first visited on the first of November you were asking us where Lee lived. We didn't know exactly but we have his phone number. Would that have helped you?"
"It would have been useful", I said. "I could have gotten his address from the phone company."
"Oh, I am so sorry, I should have realized that."

Not to be too repetitive but again Hosty just explained that he didn't know where Oswald lived and Ruth and Marina didn't know either. But they had the phone number where he lived and had they provided to him he could have found out. Hosty also said that he had other cases, other people to follow including the far right Birchers in the area. Obviously he couldn't be closely monitoring Oswald every day AND also watch these other cases even if he knew where Oswald lived. He's just one person.

The original claim that "Oswald's every move was monitored by the FBI/CIA" is simply not true. It can't be because they weren't aware of where he lived. Even if they did know that's not monitoring "every move" he made. In order to monitor every move they would need to assign agents who followed him around, who saw where he went, who he met. And there is absolutely no evidence at all that anyone in the FBI or CIA was following his "every move."
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Offline Watson Phillips

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You're full of bloody beans.

So why do you think they decided not to record a word of what Oswald answered under questioning ?

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