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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2025, 01:58:00 PM »
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Jerry Organ did some kind of comparison of Betzner and Willis over 20 years ago (see picture at the bottom)... Why was this overlooked?

Once you see it... you can't not see it!

This is likely Black Dog Man, or his accomplice...
He looks as though he has African-American features... with a gun... and tripod... and hat...
Is this the fellow M. Sitzman saw behind the retaining wall?

THIS should go viral!
And it will probably keep some of you up at night...






   With respect to "20 years ago", technology has far surpassed these eye scratching images. This is why Today we can see that Willis 5 shows 2 Men standing at the bottom of The Steps. The 3 Men stuff is Now laughable.

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2025, 02:17:08 PM »
Even 61 years ago, the technology was sufficient for Jerry Flynn's camera to capture the two DPD plainclothes officers looking at the lunch remains on the bench.

Those dang "inconvenient facts," eh? Just ignore 'em - they're no fun!

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2025, 03:22:25 PM »
Even 61 years ago, the technology was sufficient for Jerry Flynn's camera to capture the two DPD plainclothes officers looking at the lunch remains on the bench.

Those dang "inconvenient facts," eh? Just ignore 'em - they're no fun!

   The photo you reference was a "Posed" Photograph. You do know that, right?

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2025, 05:50:30 PM »
   The photo you reference was a "Posed" Photograph. You do know that, right?

Not only do I not know that, but Jefferson Morley doesn't know that (this is from his JFK Facts Substack):

"Later in the afternoon of November 22, Johnny Flynn, a photographer for the Dallas Morning News, captured two Dallas plainclothes detectives looking at the park bench where the couple sat and examining the bag lunch they left behind. The photo confirms the details in Sitzman’s account, and begs the question: what happened to the couple on the knoll?"

Was the bench posed as well? The lunch remains (Tom Thumb buns?) posed? The detectives posed? Johnny Flynn posed? All to confirm Sitzman's story - or was she part of the conspiracy too? Golly, just the effort to cover-up the Black guy with a rifle and tripod was a pretty elaborate conspiracy all by itself!

Believe what you wish, but these ad hoc explanations do end up looking like a Rube Goldberg contraption - all to prop up a photo that has been examined umpteen times. If you can actually prove something new and different, go for it. I say pareidolia until you do.

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2025, 08:01:17 PM »
Not only do I not know that, but Jefferson Morley doesn't know that (this is from his JFK Facts Substack):

"Later in the afternoon of November 22, Johnny Flynn, a photographer for the Dallas Morning News, captured two Dallas plainclothes detectives looking at the park bench where the couple sat and examining the bag lunch they left behind. The photo confirms the details in Sitzman’s account, and begs the question: what happened to the couple on the knoll?"

Was the bench posed as well? The lunch remains (Tom Thumb buns?) posed? The detectives posed? Johnny Flynn posed? All to confirm Sitzman's story - or was she part of the conspiracy too? Golly, just the effort to cover-up the Black guy with a rifle and tripod was a pretty elaborate conspiracy all by itself!

Believe what you wish, but these ad hoc explanations do end up looking like a Rube Goldberg contraption - all to prop up a photo that has been examined umpteen times. If you can actually prove something new and different, go for it. I say pareidolia until you do.

We shouldn't get distracted from the larger picture...

We have a convincing image of someone at the corner of the retaining wall, with what could very well be a rifle scope...

Pareidolia is a real condition to consider... but there is an opposite condition that is very effective in distorting reality... perhaps agnosia - specifically visual agnosia - a neurological condition where someone is unable to recognize objects, faces, or patterns despite having intact vision.

AND there are some who are so psychologically set against seeing something, they cannot and will not see it...

There he is... waiting for the president at the corner of the retaining wall...







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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2025, 08:46:33 PM »
Not only do I not know that, but Jefferson Morley doesn't know that (this is from his JFK Facts Substack):

"Later in the afternoon of November 22, Johnny Flynn, a photographer for the Dallas Morning News, captured two Dallas plainclothes detectives looking at the park bench where the couple sat and examining the bag lunch they left behind. The photo confirms the details in Sitzman’s account, and begs the question: what happened to the couple on the knoll?"

Was the bench posed as well? The lunch remains (Tom Thumb buns?) posed? The detectives posed? Johnny Flynn posed? All to confirm Sitzman's story - or was she part of the conspiracy too? Golly, just the effort to cover-up the Black guy with a rifle and tripod was a pretty elaborate conspiracy all by itself!

Believe what you wish, but these ad hoc explanations do end up looking like a Rube Goldberg contraption - all to prop up a photo that has been examined umpteen times. If you can actually prove something new and different, go for it. I say pareidolia until you do.

      Take a look at any image of that area between the short wall and the picket fence. There are NOT Photog's and/or Reporters sniffing around Down inside this area at the same time it was being investigated. In fact, the DPD completely cleared the area N and S of Elm St. shortly after they were sure the TSBD did Not have an active shooter inside it.  DPD had cops cars parked on the Elm St sidewalk and atop the (S) grass section. That frequently seen photo was posed.

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2025, 10:54:54 AM »
The absolute (sic),(sic) most convincing photo you will ever see!

That's a suggestion I refuse to accept.

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Re: The absolute, most convincing photo you will ever see!
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2025, 10:57:54 AM »
Your hero and mine, Jefferson Morley, not only fully accepts Sitzman's story but is actively searching for the young couple: https://jfkfacts.substack.com/p/the-couple-on-the-grassy-knoll?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

His article includes the photo of the lunch remains on the bench taken by Jerry Flynn of the Dallas Morning News the same afternoon.

I hope you're kidding when you say Jefferson Morley is your hero.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2025, 05:20:44 PM by Tom Graves »

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