The Simplest Conspiracy Theory

[Tom Graves]

   Including ALL the Fake Newser's, how many people do you believe were involved in the Cover-up that POTUS Joe Biden was, "Cuckoo-for-Cocoa-Puffs"? These people KNOW their job function. They do Not require a "huddle up" with a QB telling them what to do.

Storing,

It seems to me that you're suffering from a very bad case of Biden Derangement Syndrome.

[Zeon Mason]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

[Tom Graves]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

Do you think lots of people were wittingly involved in the JFKA's planning, "patsy-ing," shooting, and all-important cover up, or just a few?

[Jim Hawthorn]

No, Tom, for those of us advocating for a USA first policy which we believe is a natural common sense thing, the memory of Biden is more like PTSD.  The Illegal Alien invasion of USA and that “Woke”ideology that the Marxist Left Democrat party tried to enact into law is a traumatic event that is difficult to forget.

As to the question of how many conspirators would be needed to alter evidence and make false reports and ignore witnesses , and conduct a sham investigation , you should consult  with the former Democrat Party Central Committee members like Adam Schiff , Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Now, back to Simple (pre planned) Conspiracy Theory alternatives.

The concept:
    A single conspirator shooter used his own special rifle while preplantng the 40” MC rifle to implicate or least cast suspicion towards Oswald. The conspirator wants  to cause as much confusion and distress to the American public as possible, and the planting of a rifle different than his own he thinks is like adding insult to injury as well as perhaps some revenge on Oswald whom the shooter has disdain for, possibly because he considered Oswald  to be a pro Castro Marxist.

The Plan:
1. A conspirator shooter pre planted the 40” MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm by Weitzman and Boone.
2. The conspirator had previously found out about Oswald having that rifle after the Walker shooting. (Oswald had in fact taken a shot at Walker)
3. The conspirator stole the MC rifle from Oswalds boarding house or from the Paines garage probably within just a few days if not hours before Nov 22/63.
4. The conspirator took both his own special type rifle with folding stock and the MC rifle into TSBD probably just after midnight Thursday Nov/22/63, up to the 6th floor, where he placed the MC rifle in between boxes.
5. The shooter then hid his special rifle on the 7th floor ( attic space) and slept there for a few hours until daylight.
6. At about 12:00 pm Friday, Nov 22/63, the shooter went down to the TSBD 6th floor to take a quick look. He neither saw nor heard BRW on the floor at that time.
7. The shooter went back up to the 7th floor to get his folding stock rifle and carry it with him under his coat. He returned to the 6th floor not knowing that BRW had arrived and that BRW was over at the SE window.
8. The shooters original plan was to shoot from the SW 6th floor window affording him a quicker escape to the rear stair case or to an elevator.
9. The shooter was momentarily seen at the SW window by Arnold Rowland at 12:15. During this time, Oswald was seen by Carolyn Arnold seated in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
10. The shooter became aware of BRW at the SE window, while BRW was not aware of the shooter because of a wall of boxes at the SE window. BRW  was also looking out and down at the Dealey plaza.
11. The shooter retreated from the SW window 10 secs after 12:15, folding his rifle and hiding it under his coat.He moved over to the east wall of the 6th floor going behind BRW at the SE window, and found someplace he could hide with LOS thru a narrow gap, so that he would know if BRW would leave the floor.
12. At 12:20 BRW left the SE window and walked past the hidden shooter to take an elevator down to the 5th floor.
13. At 12:21, the shooter decides he will shoot from the SE window as he knows that the JFK limo is soon to arrive in Dealey plaza.
14. The shooter arranges a few boxes and places one on the window ledge either for shade or for a resting his rifle on. The window ledge box is in place just before 12:25.
15: the firing of 3 shots in less than 6 secs begins at Z224 and ends about 1 sec after the Z313 shot. The 3rd shot is the one that missed just above JFKs head and struck the curb near James Tague.

The escape: To be continued…

The very clever conspirator must have been a retard if he though he do all that in building full of people walking from floor to floor! No intelligent plan would even dream of trying to operate within such an unstable environment. Makes no sense.
Also, if the whole point of this was to frame Oswald, why the hell would Lee be left to freely roam the building where anyone could see him, talk to him?

[Zeon Mason]

@Jim: The TSBD was an easy building  to enter and to move up and down using elevators or stairs as it was an unsecured building.

After work hours it is improbable that all windows and doors of the TSBD were locked.

Even if they were, it would have been easy to break into the building because there was no alarm system tied to all the opening of windows and doors.

I do not recall reading that there was even a night security guard for the building.

So it is entirely plausible a conspirator shooter could get into TSBD on the late night of Thursday Nov 22/63 , and be unseen doing so. And once inside the building , he could have gone up to any floor, except the roof, using the rear staircase. It is doubtful that doors on each staircase were locked, but if they were, a professional conspirator assassin no doubt would be prepared and able to unlock them.

I agree with you Jim, that The planting of the 40” MC rifle would seem to be a “retarded” thing to do by a professional conspirator assassin.

I had to explore this  pre planted possibility first in an attempt to explain how the 40” MC rifle was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20 pm, to see if there is some reason why the conspirator would do that , since it would be difficult to keep Oswald from inadvertently having an alibi at the time of shooting.

So one purpose to plant the MC rifle might  be to cause confusion for investigators in the aftermath, and or was revenge on Oswald possibly for portraying himself as a Marxist  in New Orleans and causing  confrontations with Anti Castro Cuban Americans.

There might be some other reasons I have not thought of yet, so any CTs are welcome to jump in here to help out

[Jim Hawthorn]

@Jim: The TSBD was an easy building  to enter and to move up and down using elevators or stairs as it was an unsecured building.

After work hours it is improbable that all windows and doors of the TSBD were locked.

Even if they were, it would have been easy to break into the building because there was no alarm system tied to all the opening of windows and doors.

I do not recall reading that there was even a night security guard for the building.

So it is entirely plausible a conspirator shooter could get into TSBD on the late night of Thursday Nov 22/63 , and be unseen doing so. And once inside the building , he could have gone up to any floor, except the roof, using the rear staircase. It is doubtful that doors on each staircase were locked, but if they were, a professional conspirator assassin no doubt would be prepared and able to unlock them.

I agree with you Jim, that The planting of the 40” MC rifle would seem to be a “retarded” thing to do by a professional conspirator assassin.

I had to explore this  pre planted possibility first in an attempt to explain how the 40” MC rifle was found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20 pm, to see if there is some reason why the conspirator would do that , since it would be difficult to keep Oswald from inadvertently having an alibi at the time of shooting.

So one purpose to plant the MC rifle might  be to cause confusion for investigators in the aftermath, and or was revenge on Oswald possibly for portraying himself as a Marxist  in New Orleans and causing  confrontations with Anti Castro Cuban Americans.

There might be some other reasons I have not thought of yet, so any CTs are welcome to jump in here to help out

I get the thing about planting a rifle the day before the shooting but I can't see a conspirator thinking that they could take shots incognito in such a building full of workers freely circulating on all floors.

[Dan O'meara]

Whether or not CE-399, with ballistic marks from Oswald's short-rifle on it, was the bullet that was found at Parkland Hospital (at least you're admitting that a bullet was found at Parkland Hospital), who fired it from Oswald's short-rifle, how did it get so strangely deformed, where was it found or "found," and how did it end up being given to FBI agent Elmer Todd?

If it wasn't found at Parkland Hospital by Tomlinson, and if it wasn't found an innocent person somewhere else (the riverbank?) and given to his or her buddy Tomlinson (a natural-born prankster, evidently) for some unknown reason, which conspirator initiated the process of its being given to FBI agent Todd (or was HE one of the bad guys, too?), and why did the bad guys include Tomlinson, et al., in the "bogus chain of possession"?

Which goes back to my original question -- How many bad guys and/or really, really bad gals do you think were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important cover up?

It doesn't have to be exact, O'meara -- plus or minus ten or so.

Oodles and gobs?

Poor old Tommy just isn't getting it.
Like all true Nutters he believes his theory is a fact. He simply can't deal with any of the evidence that undermines his shaky belief system, so he pretends it doesn't exist.
REPLY#146 of "The Warren Commission Sham" thread is a litany of questions and issues that brave little Tommy has ducked including this:

Tomlinson, Wright, Johnsen and Rowley refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled that day.
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet he handled that day.
None of these men were asked to identify CE399 by the Warren Commission.
Wright and Johnsen were never asked to testify at all.
Rowley testified but was never asked about CE399.
Unbelievably, Tomlinson,the man who discovered the bullet in Parkland, testified AND WASN'T ASKED A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THE BULLET ITSELF!!
He wasn't shown the bullet to identify, he wasn't shown a picture of the bullet, he wasn't even asked to describe it!
FACT - CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found in Parkland without a single person vouching for it as such. NOBODY IDENTIFIED IT AS THE BULLET FOUND IN PARKLAND!

There is zero evidence that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland and an overwhelming amount of evidence that it wasn't the bullet.
Like all good Nutters, Tommy isn't interested in evidence against his theory. He's blind to it and will hold onto his belief that CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland come what may.
He certainly has no intention of trying to deal with any of this in a credible way.

What he really doesn't get is that this incredibly suspect ballistic evidence is as much a headache for me as it is for him!
The theory I'm proposing doesn't NEED this corrupt ballistic evidence. I'd much prefer it if these four men all identified CE399 as the bullet that was found at Parkland. I'd prefer it if Tomlinson was asked about it and ID'd the bullet when he was giving his testimony before the Sham.
The conspiracy theory I'm proposing is as simple as possible so all of this is a massive obstacle.
However, the difference between me and little Tommy is that I refuse to hide from this evidence.
I don't have the type of mindset that allows me to ignore such overwhelming evidence.
Even if it hurts my own theory I can't ignore it and find it cowardly to do so.

Like all Nutters, little Tommy likes others to do his thinking for him.
So, I'd like to put forward a theory that the FBI were staggeringly incompetent rather than corrupt.
There are two very large problems regarding the ballistic evidence:

1] CE399 magically appearing in the chain of custody with Elmer Todd
2] The bullet or large bullet fragment that fell off JBC's gurney as he was transferred onto the examining table which then magically transformed into the four small metal flakes known as Q9

JBC remembered the bullet (fragment) was picked up by a nurse. Henry Wade remembered the nurse coming to him with it and telling her to give it to a police officer. Bob Nolan remembers the nurse giving it to him. Nolan then left it on Fritz's desk but at some point it magically turned into Q9, four small metal flakes taken out of JBC's wrist injury.
What if the bullet that fell off JBC's gurney was CE399?
The bullet found by Tomlinson had nothing to do with the assassination, it was a completely different bullet, but at the FBI lab in Washington there was some kind of massive mix up and the bullet that fell from JBC's gurney was accidentally (or intentionally) swapped with the dud found by Tomlinson.
This would offer some kind of resolution for these two insurmountable ballistic issues.

On the other hand, Hoover ordered that Oswald was the lone assassin before the investigation had barely begun and that all evidence was going to show that, no matter what.