JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic

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Online Royell Storing

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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2025, 06:36:25 PM »
Sorry, how would a mortician, Tom Robinson, know whether the photos were altered or not? Did he have any background in the subject? And would he remember what the photos should have looked like almost 20 years later? According to the timeline that seems to me most accurate, he arrived with a coffin *after* the autopsy began and then watched it from the spectator's area. So he's watching from the gallery and can tell what the body looked like? I am skeptical.

Yes, experts can be wrong. But we need to point where they are wrong and not simply dismiss them.

   With respect to Robinson, I believe his recollections would be restricted to JFK's HEAD. Robinson applied a Patch of sorts over the Large Exit Wound in the back of JFK's head. I believe a mortician doing detailed work such as this to a POTUS would be remembered in detail. Also, Robinson believed he was preparing the JFK Body for an Open Casket Viewing. I believe this expectation would further make Robinson's work meticulous and therefore memory stamped.   

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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2025, 07:38:23 PM »
I believe the photographs are "authentic".  This is a generic term that states that these were the pictures or x-rays for that matter, that were taken of the actual body. It doesn't mean to say that someone dictated what camera angles were used or if patches were applied to the skull in order to produce a series of pictures which fits the LNer narrative.   Who knows how many x-rays and pictures were taken, which were kept and which were discarded to get the correct effect.  You only want the ones that match your story to be there! 

For me, as I look back at the Zapruder film, I can see clear evidence that the scalp is being "blown back" over the head. This would indicate a frontal assault and likely was a combination of front and behind bullets.  The theory there was more than one shooter and not a bolt action single rifle!   Look clearly at Z3316 and Z317.  There is a lick of hair(ie. scalp with hair attachment) shown above JFK's head.   Followed by Z317, you can also see a white (bone likely) leaving right after just back of the head.  For me that is a frontal shot.  The vehicle did not speed up quickly and propel his body back, neither was his move an involuntary one and a spasm.  Jacqueline went back to retrieve later.  If you buy this, you can then try to relate it to the autopsy.   How did the piece get back in place?  How come some autopsy pictures show the flap back over the skull?   This, of course was what the original doctors working on JFK saw in the operating room at Parkland Memorial Hospital (Dr. Kenneth Salyer's Account in 2008)

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4214.8.html
 
That contradicts the autopsy photos.  He said it looked like tape was used (squared pieces on photo) to hold things in place and that in his opinion was altered.




 

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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2025, 08:44:02 PM »
That contradicts the autopsy photos.  He said it looked like tape was used (squared pieces on photo) to hold things in place and that in his opinion was altered.




I just watched the entire Salyer interview about a week ago. He did indeed say that the flap of skin suggested to him a tangential shot from the front. And he did say that the hairline in the autopsy photos in a book he was handed during the interview did not look natural and that it appeared to flap had been taped into place. On the other hand, he indicated he would not go so far as to insist on a shot from the front and thought a tangential shot from the rear was possible. He also said he accepted Oswald as the gunman. As I pointed out on another thread, by the time he died he was a firm proponent of the SBT and Oswald as the lone gunman. If the autopsy photos are authentic, it seems pretty clear that some of them were taken with the flap placed and/or held in place and after there had been some clean up. I also recall Salyer saying that the wound even when he saw in in Trauma Room 1 wasn't particularly bloody as we might expect. FWIW.

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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2025, 08:55:03 PM »
  The FBI Lab Photograph of the JFK Limo back seat area shows a basketball size blood/brain matter Stain on the very Top of the JFK Limo Back Rest. The Zapruder Film shows that JFK's Head NEVER came into contact with the Top of that Back Rest. I believe this Large Blood/Brain Matter Stain is PROOF of a Large Exit Wound in the Back of JFK's head. The Blood/Brain Matter from that Rear EXIT Wound also impacted DPD Motorcycle Officer Hargis riding on the (L) Rear of the Limo, while also being responsible for whatever Jackie crawled onto the Limo trunk lid to recover. The improvement in the clarity of this FBI Lab Photo is Now permitting us to see this blood splatter/stain far more clearly. 

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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2025, 09:39:57 PM »
That again points directly to a frontal shot if brain matter is clearly on the back of the seat and not splattered over Connally which you would expect from a rear shot.  Some would say that they didn't get the patch in place just right as it is lighter in colour and thereby lack authenticity!  The x-ray is there but looks like a lighter shade!  This was pointed in the observation below.

https://assassinationofjfk.net/a-review-of-the-jfk-cranial-x-rays-and-photographs/






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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2025, 11:30:57 PM »
That again points directly to a frontal shot if brain matter is clearly on the back of the seat and not splattered over Connally which you would expect from a rear shot.
Connally: "A third shot was fired and the president’s brain tissue and blood were splattered over the blue velour of the limousine, over Nellie’s clothes and my own. By then my head was resting in my wife’s lap and she was whispering to me, 'Be still. You’re going to be all right.'" https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/i-knew-i-had-been-hit/

Connally at the WC: "Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail ..."

I'm not sure what Royell is talking about. This is not an FBI Crime Lab photo, I don't believe, but I don't see anything inconsistent with shots from the rear. Good Lord, from Dealey Plaza until JFK was removed at Parkland, the back seat of the car was chaos, and then it was "cleaned" by SS agents at Parkland.


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Re: JFK's Autopsy Photographs are Authentic
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2025, 12:43:55 AM »
Connally: "A third shot was fired and the president’s brain tissue and blood were splattered over the blue velour of the limousine, over Nellie’s clothes and my own. By then my head was resting in my wife’s lap and she was whispering to me, 'Be still. You’re going to be all right.'" https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/i-knew-i-had-been-hit/

Connally at the WC: "Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail ..."

I'm not sure what Royell is talking about. This is not an FBI Crime Lab photo, I don't believe, but I don't see anything inconsistent with shots from the rear. Good Lord, from Dealey Plaza until JFK was removed at Parkland, the back seat of the car was chaos, and then it was "cleaned" by SS agents at Parkland.


  Lance - Thanks for posting that photo. You have seen the Zapruder film showing that JFK's head Never came into contact with the Top of the Back Rest? And you have seen the Autopsy Photo of the NEAT LITTLE Entrance wound in the cowlick area of JFK/s head? And you Know that once they got to Parkland Hospital JFK was Lifted UP & then Over the (R) SIDE of the Limo? So Exactly how does a shot from the Rear deposit a Blood Stain the size of a basketball BEHIND JFK? That basketball size blood stain is the result of a Blowout Exit Wound as was described by the Parkland Hospital Dr's. This is the same Blowout Exit Wound that spurted Blood/Brain Matter with each compression of JFK's chest as they applied external cardiac massage inside Trauma Room 1. You say, "the back seat of the car was chaos...". I agree that JFK fell to his (L) across the "BACK SEAT". The basketball size Blood Stain is on the Top of the "BACK REST".  That Blood Stain corroborates the Parkland Dr's observations of there being an EXIT wound on the BACK of JFK'S head.   
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