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The Warren Commission Sham
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on April 03, 2025, 08:28:59 PM ---Wow, talk about trying to have it both ways. If the circumstances surrounding a piece of evidence are solid then it is authentic. If the circumstances are contradictory, questionable, or inconclusive, then no Conspiracy would do that, therefore it is authentic.
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The only "circumstance" that tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists find questionable about CE-399 is where it was found (i.e., either in a part of Parkland Hospital in which JBC is known to have been taken, or, according to a revelation by a Secret Service agent whose book would soon be published -- inside the limo by him!!!) and whether or not it could have been deformed "as little as it was" after causing . . . gasp . . . all seven wounds -- the only one of which involved its striking a hard bone (sideswiping, actually) was the wound to JBC's radial bone.
Tom Graves:
Payette asked: "What is the CT explanation for the conspirators' planting a suspiciously non-deformed bullet (CE-399), fired from Oswald's rifle, at Parkland on a stretcher of unknown provenance?"
O'meara's responded: "This shows an extreme level of ignorance regarding this issue."
My comment: Your "response," O'meara, screams that you can't answer the question.
Which is totally understandable given the fact that CE-399 wounded both JFK and JBC and therefore wasn't planted by one of your oodles and gobs of bad guys and . . . gasp . . . very, very bad gals.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on April 03, 2025, 09:04:51 PM ---The only "circumstance" that tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorists find questionable about CE-399 is where it was found (i.e., either in a part of Parkland Hospital in which JBC is known to have been taken, or, according to a revelation by a Secret Service agent whose book would soon be published -- inside the limo by him!!!) and whether or not it could have been deformed "as little as it was" after causing . . . gasp . . . all seven wounds -- the only one of which involved its striking a hard bone (sideswiping, actually) was the wound to JBC's radial bone.
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The above is Not true. Limiting Where CE-399 was found as to being the only "questionable" issue surrounding the Pristine Bullet is baloney. O.P. Wright questioned whether CE-399 was the same bullet that he gave to SA Johnsen.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on April 03, 2025, 08:28:59 PM ---Wow, talk about trying to have it both ways. If the circumstances surrounding a piece of evidence are solid then it is authentic. If the circumstances are contradictory, questionable, or inconclusive, then no Conspiracy would do that, therefore it is authentic.
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No, not at all. Each item of evidence must be considered separately. If CTers wish to assert that CE 399 was fabricated, planted, etc., we must ask how fabricating and planting it makes any sense in the context of a conspiracy. The notion of fabricating CE 399 and then claiming that it was found at Parkland on a stretcher that we're not even sure was Connally's and then was so badly handled that there are chain-of-custody issues - what possible sense does that make? It's so silly that it does indeed argue in favor of authenticity.
--- Quote ---What makes you think CE-399 was ever at Parkland Hospital?
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You apparently cannot see that you're digging yourself into a deeper hole. If it actually wasn't at Parkland, this makes things even worse for CTers. This means the conspirators fabricated the story that it was found at Parkland under dubious circumstances. Why would they do that? What sense does any of this make? Sane conspirators with the time to prepare a bullet fired from Oswald's rifle would surely - it seems to me - have planted a more obviously deformed bullet and left it to be found in the limousine.
The double whammy for CTers is that it makes no sense to (1) fabricate a bullet that raises as many red flags as CE 399 and (2) either plant it at Parkland under circumstances that raise red flags or, worse yet, claim it was found under those circumstances.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on April 03, 2025, 09:41:16 PM ---No, not at all. Each item of evidence must be considered separately. If CTers wish to assert that CE 399 was fabricated, planted, etc., we must ask how fabricating and planting it makes any sense in the context of a conspiracy. The notion of fabricating CE 399 and then claiming that it was found at Parkland on a stretcher that we're not even sure was Connally's and then was so badly handled that there are chain-of-custody issues - what possible sense does that make? It's so silly that it does indeed argue in favor of authenticity.
You apparently cannot see that you're digging yourself into a deeper hole. If it actually wasn't at Parkland, this makes things even worse for CTers. This means the conspirators fabricated the story that it was found at Parkland under dubious circumstances. Why would they do that? What sense does any of this make? Sane conspirators with the time to prepare a bullet fired from Oswald's rifle would surely - it seems to me - have planted a more obviously deformed bullet and left it to be found in the limousine.
The double whammy for CTers is that it makes no sense to (1) fabricate a bullet that raises as many red flags as CE 399 and (2) either plant it at Parkland under circumstances that raise red flags or, worse yet, claim it was found under those circumstances.
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When you have a "Lost Bullet", all kinds of screwy things can be put into play. It's Improv Time. This assassination did Not go strictly according to Hoyle.
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