Any CIA disinformation agents here?

[Lance Payette]

All the agencies and people accused of being involved with a conspiracy were not connected, so how was this planned?

Hoover and FBI were behind it?
The CIA had Oswald as an employee?
The rich Texas oilmen profited?
The Dallas Police planted evidence?
The SS were relaxed with their security and stole the body?
The medical autopsy was a fraud?
Various private citizens lied, for what reason? Fame maybe, Fortune definitely not.

Whereas on the other hand if it's just Oswald, there is no need for any accusations, Oswald did it with a side helping of a little human incompetence which is to be expected with an investigation with so many hands involved. In fact having so many differing agencies would have kept everyone as honest as they possibly could be, because who knew who was looking over their shoulder!

JohnM

Larry Hancock's point of long ago is one of the most rational things to come out of the CT community: There undoubtedly was a post-assassination cover-up because of the massive incompetence in allowing the JFKA to happen. It was a CYA cover-up, not an assassination-related cover-up. The post-assassination cover-up and the assassination itself were two entirely separate events. And the post-assassination cover-up was not a conspiracy per se but rather multiple agencies covering their own incompetence. Being freed of the need to connect the assassination itself to the scrambling that occurred thereafter, and of the need to view the post-assassination scrambling as a massive conspiracy, is one key to rationality in thinking about the JFKA.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

From the day Oswald arrived in Dallas on a bus from Mexico City - October 3 - to the day of the assassination almost two months later (50 days to be exact) no one in the government knew where he lived during the week. They had no idea what he did or went during those weekdays and nights. And it was only on October 29 that Hosty said he learned that he was living with the Paines on weekends. And the first time he ever talked to Oswald was in the police station after his arrest.

So for almost two months he was off their radar. Incompetence, bureaucracy, sloppy work: real human beings and not these sinister all-powerful groups that conspiracists see everywhere. Even today.

As to the alleged decades old coverups (plural): let's put it this way. The idea that Republicans and Democrats, who hate each other like two religious sects, could or would agree to cover this up all of these years, and remain silent about it, is utterly and completely bonkers. It cannot be done. Human nature and politics and the way people behave forbids it. I can see how some conspiracy believers in the UK or abroad could see this happening. They don't know what we know, how the government on all levels operate. But no American who knows how the two parties loathe one another, who know about the bureaucracy we have, the personality conflicts, the turf fights, the incompetence of how government works (as I noted above on their non-monitoring of Oswald) should believe this.

But somehow they do.

[Jake Maxwell]

CORRECTION:
According to the 1976 Senate Select Committee investigating the investigation of the JFK assassination, the words of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, stating his concern that something be issued to convince the public that Oswald killed the president, came from a recorded phone conversation between Hoover and White House Aide Walter Jenkins, on November 24, immediately following Oswald's murder by Jack Ruby...
The thing I am most concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzen-
bach, is having something issued so we can convince the
public that Oswald is the real assassin.[/size]

[Richard Smith]

So, here you are taking up for Hoover, saying he had "legitimate reasons to convince the public that Oswald was guilty."

And the first reason is "because he [Oswald] WAS guilty. He did it. The evidence leaves no doubt."

Do you really think Hoover had all the evidence within ONE DAY to justify condemning Oswald? And that Hoover knew from the evidence he did it, and there was "no doubt?"

It's people who rush to judgment like this who are a threat to national security.

No... you've got the narrative wrong. Hoover was not trying to protect the US... He was most likely trying to protect himself and his cronies from being exposed.
To hell with justice, let Oswald be condemned.

The Dallas PD had enough evidence within 24 hours to charge Oswald with the crime.  The basic evidence is unchanged 60 years later.  Oswald did it.

[Jake Maxwell]

The Dallas PD had enough evidence withing 24 hours to charge Oswald with the crime.  The basic evidence is unchanged 60 years later.  Oswald did it.

No... the basic cover-up is unchanged...
Whoever says they had enough evidence within 24 hours to condemn Oswald, is condemning the Dallas PD with a rush to judgment...
Here's some helpful reading on Hoover... https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4211.0.html

[Richard Smith]

No... the basic cover-up is unchanged...
Whoever says they had enough evidence within 24 hours to condemn Oswald, is condemning the Dallas PD with a rush to judgment...
Here's some helpful reading on Hoover... https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4211.0.html

Let's see.  Within 24 hours they knew that LHO worked in the building from which the shots were fired, that his rifle was found there, that he had fled the scene, got a gun and killed a police officer, and that he was a political nut.  A rock-solid case based on the evidence.  There was no rush to judgment.  There was an assessment of the evidence which overwhelmingly linked Oswald to the crime for which he was charged within 24 hours.  That is unchanged to this day.

[Martin Weidmann]

Let's see.  Within 24 hours they knew that LHO worked in the building from which the shots were fired, that his rifle was found there, that he had fled the scene, got a gun and killed a police officer, and that he was a political nut.  A rock-solid case based on the evidence.  There was no rush to judgment.  There was an assessment of the evidence which overwhelmingly linked Oswald to the crime for which he was charged within 24 hours.  That is unchanged to this day.

Utter BS

Within 24 hours they knew that LHO worked in the building from which the shots were fired, that his rifle was found there, that he had fled the scene, got a gun and killed a police officer, and that he was a political nut.

At best, that would have made Oswald a suspect.

There was an assessment of the evidence which overwhelmingly linked Oswald to the crime for which he was charged within 24 hours.

Charging somebody for a crime doesn't automatically mean that person's guilty.

There was no rush to judgment.

LOL