JFK Assassination Computer Analysis Video!

[Tom Graves]

Sitzman said they could see the JFK Limo and the motorcade coming down Houston St from their elevated perch position.

Did she say they could see the limo when the three motorcycles were turning onto Elm Street?

[Tom Graves]

The 3 motorcycles we see on the Zapruder Film were originally part of 5 motorcycles. These 5 motorcycles were NOT 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo". Do you know how short of a "block" Houston St is? Your, 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo", would therefore put the JFK Limo 2-3 Blocks back on Main St when Zapruder filmed those 3 motorcycles turning onto Elm St. Yet, Sitzman said they could see the JFK Limo and the motorcade coming down Houston St from their elevated perch position. So how does Zapruder "mistakenly" film these 3 motorcycles when the JFK Limo is completely out of sight, 2-3 blocks back on Main St? Remember that there was a Pilot Car in front of the Lead Car. Maybe the motorcycles that were 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo" were motorcycles attached to the Pilot Car? The Pilot Car and the Lead Car were close to identical looking cars.

Storing,

You're right that the three motorcycles turning onto Elm Street at the beginning of the Zapruder film were the three that remained in the Lead Motorcycles group when Brewer and Freeman left it to help the Advance Motorcycles group control the Stemmons Freeway traffic.

That still leaves the so-called Lead Car (with Curry, Lawson, Decker, and Sorrels) as the vehicle that immediately preceded the limo by several seconds and which wasn't caught in Zapruder's film for the simple reason that he wasn't filming at the time.

If you'll google https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/animation.htm , you'll see that this "Lead Car" was about 10 seconds ahead of the limo, and who-knows-how-far behind the aforementioned three motorcycles.

[Royell Storing]

   The Lead Car was nowhere close to 10 seconds ahead of the JFK Limo. Houston is a very short block. If you look at the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St, you can also SEE the Lead Car up ahead just beginning the turn onto Elm St. You got the gap between the motorcycles vs the JFK Limo wrong, and now you got the gap between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo wrong. Like I said, (1) you need to view the film footage of the JFK Limo coming down Main St. The motorcycles, the Lead Car, and the JFK Limo are easy to see. (2) View the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St. You can see the Lead Car just beginning the turn onto Elm St. A 10 SECOND GAP? Not even close.  Also, there is WC Testimony regarding the distance between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo. I think it was Driver Curry that was Q/A'd about that. 

[Tom Graves]

The Lead Car was nowhere close to 10 seconds ahead of the JFK Limo. Houston is a very short block. If you look at the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St, you can also SEE the Lead Car up ahead just beginning the turn onto Elm St. You got the gap between the motorcycles vs the JFK Limo wrong, and now you got the gap between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo wrong. Like I said, (1) you need to view the film footage of the JFK Limo coming down Main St. The motorcycles, the Lead Car, and the JFK Limo are easy to see. (2) View the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St. You can see the Lead Car just beginning the turn onto Elm St. A 10 SECOND GAP? Not even close.  Also, there is WC Testimony regarding the distance between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo. I think it was Driver Curry that was Q/A'd about that.

How far ahead of Curry's Lead Car do you think the three motorcycles in Zapruder were?

Curry said his car was approaching the triple underpass when he heard the first of three shots.

[Royell Storing]

  Think about it. Did Zapruder film those 2 motorcycles that broke away from the 5 motorcycles? Of course not. Why? Because he could see down Houston St and KNOW they were well ahead of the JFK Motorcade. Who else whether on film or photo captured those 3 motorcycles on Elm St?  NOBODY. Zapruder filmed the whole Shebang in front of the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. Lead Car included. He could see it ALL coming down Houston St. And that $150K spread over 6yrs kept him quiet. Dan Rather is the Best Evidence. 

[Tom Graves]

Think about it. Did Zapruder film those 2 motorcycles that broke away from the 5 motorcycles? Of course not. Why? Because he could see down Houston St and KNOW they were well ahead of the JFK Motorcade. Who else whether on film or photo captured those 3 motorcycles on Elm St?  NOBODY. Zapruder filmed the whole Shebang in front of the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. Lead Car included. He could see it ALL coming down Houston St. And that $150K spread over 6yrs kept him quiet. Dan Rather is the Best Evidence.

So, Zapruder didn't turn off his camera while the three motorcycles were coming towards him and resume filming when he saw the limo on Elm Street; he filmed continuously, and the bad guys edited out several seconds of footage which included Chief Curry's Lead Car's turning onto Elm Street.

And they did this why?

To hide something?

Tangential Question: How far behind the three motorcycles was the limo when they were turning onto Elm Street?

[Royell Storing]

     Holland's "Lost Bullet" would have come as Zapruder was filming the Limo making the turn onto Elm St. Except this "Lost Bullet" was Not fired from the sniper's nest. Different bullet, 2nd shooter.

[Tom Graves]

Holland's "Lost Bullet" would have come (sic) as Zapruder was filming the Limo making the turn onto Elm St. Except this "Lost Bullet" was Not fired from the sniper's nest. Different bullet, 2nd shooter.

Storing,

1) Why are you so obsessed with Holland's first-shot-at-hypothetical-"Z-107" theory? (Regardless, at "Z-107" the limo had already finished its turn.)

2) Aren't you familiar with Roselle's and Scearce's 2020 first-shot-at-hypothetical-"Z-124" theory?

3) Are you trying to say that the Zapruder film was edited by the bad guys to hide the "fact" that the first, missing-everything, shot was fired by "the 2nd shooter" from a different location?

4) How many bad guys and really, really bad gals do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the escaping, and the all-important cover up?

5) Just a few, or oodles and gobs?