What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2025, 04:19:31 PM »
Polls show that between 60% to 85% of the public over the decades believe in a conspiracy behind the assassination and reject the lone assassin explanation. It's been "the establishment" that has tried to tell them this didn't happen; it was one man with one rifle. The fact that we've been terribly served by the establishment (not as terribly as you think but that's another discussion) doesn't mean they are always wrong, must always be opposed. Sometimes they are right and the public wrong. As in this matter.

Second, you don't really think the conspiracy promoters will be dissuaded from their goofy ideas ("It was the CIA!" "No, it was the Pentagon!" "No, it was the Mob!" "No, it was anti-Castro Cubans!" "No, it was the Birchers!") with this release? When they are released and show nothing, what will the response be? Will it be any different than the one they gave with the previous releases? What is the usual response to conspiracy believers of any kind when the evidence contradicts their claims? Answer: "The lack of evidence is a conspiracy!"

It's a bit apples and oranges.  While the establishment has generally supported a lone gunman conclusion because that is what the evidence demonstrates, they have not always been transparent with the underlying information.  The FBI, CIA, and many other governmental agencies are secretive by nature and see no advantage in being transparent.  That's why these files have still not been released even after 60 years.  It takes an outsider like Trump to say enough is enough.  Will every hard-core kook conspiracy theorist change their mind when the files are released?  Of course not.  Many of these people are mentally ill and invested in a JFK conspiracy.  It does move the needle, however, with the average person who gives any thought to the case.  I've had random discussions with folks who mostly couldn't care less about the JFK assassination, and many ask why the files haven't been released if there is nothing to hide.  It's a reasonable question.  Now that is done.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2025, 06:16:43 PM »
These remaining files were, from what I've read, originally reviewed by the ARRB. Judge John Tunnheim, the chairman, said he's seen them and there's nothing about the assassination in them.

Then why would they be categorized as JFK Assassination Records at all?

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2025, 06:17:50 PM »
Kudos to President Trump for getting this done despite the obstruction of the establishment.

Typical "Richard" to give the felon credit for something he hasn't even done.  News flash:  he's a pathological liar.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2025, 02:25:10 AM »
Typical "Richard" to give the felon credit for something he hasn't even done.  News flash:  he's a pathological liar.

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2025, 01:41:44 PM »
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/23/politics/jfk-assassination-files-trump/index.html






JohnM

Good one John!  How long until we are taken down the contrarian rabbit hole?  I'll get it started: 

-How do we know that is the JFK executive order? It could be photo shopped. It could be another executive order.  The counter possibilities are endless.
-"LOL" a lot of presidents have held pens.  That doesn't prove anything. 
-No files have been released (implying that they never will be but when they are released refuse to admit that you were a fool) 
-It could be a Russian plot to undermine our confidence in the government.  Prove that they haven't been altered. 

A combination of Trump hatred and JFK CTer contrarian mentality to deny facts.  They can't bring themselves to acknowledge that Trump has done something that they agree with and give him credit for it. 

Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: What's in the Next (Last?) Batch of JFK Files? Here's One View
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2025, 04:35:01 PM »
The release of these files should be the final blow to those CTers who cling to them like a life raft to preserve hope in a JFK conspiracy. 
A conspiracy doesn't have to be the vast "inside job". If two people were involved, four, seven,... that's a conspiracy.
You are forgetting that President Ford privately told President Giscard d'Estaing "It wasn't satisfactory. We reached a first conclusion: it was not an isolated crime, it was something organized. We were sure that it was organized. But we could not find out by whom. So there was an organization, which has not really been exposed, that hated, that detested or that feared President Kennedy, and that decided to get rid of him."".
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