Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Charles Collins]

WTF does any of this have to do with whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Does anyone here really believe that the first shot was fired at Z-192, or some-such thing?

Since you quoted my post I will respond to you. Andrew entered the discussion in response to an answer I gave regarding a question that someone (maybe you) asked regarding before just which shot Wiegman began filming. I cited Dale Myers’ work. Andrew tried to Pooh Pooh on Myers’ work. Things evolved from that (as I figured they would) to arguing about Andrew Mason’s idea regarding the timing of the shots, etc. So it actually does have something to do with “whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds”.

Now, I could ask you what your latest post in the thread linked below has to do with why the first shot missed. But I am not a Richard head, so I won’t.     

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2090.msg159402.html#msg159402

[Tom Graves]

Since you quoted my post I will respond to you. Andrew entered the discussion in response to an answer I gave regarding a question that someone (maybe you) asked regarding before just which shot Wiegman began filming. I cited Dale Myers’ work. Andrew tried to Pooh Pooh on Myers’ work. Things evolved from that (as I figured they would) to arguing about Andrew Mason’s idea regarding the timing of the shots, etc. So it actually does have something to do with “whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds”.

I don't need a recitation of the nerdish, mathematics-and-geometry-obsessed history of this thread. All I need is an answer to this question: How does this thread help us determine whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Is it impossible to determine, by looking at the photographic images available to us, whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

If so, what's the use of this thread?

[Charles Collins]

I don't need a recitation of the nerdish, mathematics-and-geometry-obsessed history of this thread. All I need is an answer to this question: How does this thread help us determine whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

Is it impossible to determine, by looking at the photographic images available to us, whether or not all three shots were fired in 10.2 seconds?

If so, what's the use of this thread?

You have the ability to delete the whole thread if you wish….

[Tom Graves]

You have the ability to delete the whole thread if you wish….

What, if anything, has Andrew Mason said to you or shown to you in this thread that has caused you to doubt the validity of Dale Myers' synchronization of the Hughes' film, the Zapruder film, and the Towner film, etc.?

[Charles Collins]

What, if anything, has Andrew Mason said to you or shown to you in this thread that has caused you to doubt the validity of Dale Myers' synchronization of the Hughes' film, the Zapruder film, and the Towner film, etc.?

It isn’t about any doubts. Rather, it is about keeping an open mind and potentially learning something from others’ points of view. Andrew indicated he thought Dale Myers’ work was faulty regarding the start of the Weigman film. I looked into the matter and discovered the reason for the perceived issue was that Dale Myers searched for and used the original Wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the beginning of the film that the more common (edited) copies do not include. If anyone else was paying attention, they might have learned something that they didn’t know before. This is the type of thing that I think makes participating in this forum worthwhile. I have personally learned a lot and hope to continue doing so.

[Royell Storing]

It isn’t about any doubts. Rather, it is about keeping an open mind and potentially learning something from others’ points of view. Andrew indicated he thought Dale Myers’ work was faulty regarding the start of the Weigman film. I looked into the matter and discovered the reason for the perceived issue was that Dale Myers searched for and used the original Wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the beginning of the film that the more common (edited) copies do not include. If anyone else was paying attention, they might have learned something that they didn’t know before. This is the type of thing that I think makes participating in this forum worthwhile. I have personally learned a lot and hope to continue doing so.

    Your "...wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the BEGINNING of the film that the more common (Edited) copies do Not include.", sounds alot like the rumor of there being an (UNedited) Zapruder Film in which the BEGINNING shows the JFK Limo turning onto Elm ST. I do Not know when the Myers timeline "work" was done, but the Wiegman Film for decades was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "Continuously". That "continuous" Wiegman filming stuff was proven to be False. If the Myers assigned timelines are based on the Wiegman being shot "continuously", those timelines are worthless. As the saying goes, "The Wiegman Film has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese". Swearing allegiance to the "Continuous" Wiegman Film was also one of the nails that drove Gary Mack into the clutches of the Sixth Floor Museum. 

[Charles Collins]

    Your "...wiegman film which includes some 14 additional frames at the BEGINNING of the film that the more common (Edited) copies do Not include.", sounds alot like the rumor of there being an (UNedited) Zapruder Film in which the BEGINNING shows the JFK Limo turning onto Elm ST. I do Not know when the Myers timeline "work" was done, but the Wiegman Film for decades was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "Continuously". That "continuous" Wiegman filming stuff was proven to be False. If the Myers assigned timelines are based on the Wiegman being shot "continuously", those timelines are worthless. As the saying goes, "The Wiegman Film has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese". Swearing allegiance to the "Continuous" Wiegman Film was also one of the nails that drove Gary Mack into the clutches of the Sixth Floor Museum.

Dale Myers’ film synchronization was first published in 2007, revised in 2008, and revised again in 2010.

Richard Trask tells us on page 381 of his book “Pictures of the Pain”:

In Fort Worth WBAP received the Wiegman film from the hospital, and by about 2-1/2 hours after the shooting, the rough film was out of the processor and ready for a network feed. In New York at about 4:05 Eastern Time anchorman Bill Ryan introduced: “…And now for a late report from Fort Worth-Dallas, we go to station WBAP-TV and newsman Charles Murphy.” Murphy began a voice-over as the film rolled through its 2 minute and 46 seconds sequence.

“Here now are late unedited, unscreened films of the shooting scene in Dallas. This is the scene near the Stemmons Expressway - in front - no this is in front of the City Hall in Downtown Dallas, a mile east of the shooting scene. Heavy crowds lined the downtown street to view the presidential party. As in all of the Texas stops, there were many teenagers attracted there by the First Lady and the President. This is Main Street in Dallas. Is this moving west? - This is moving west towards the fatal moment. The motorcade is traveling about 20 to 25 miles per hour. Slowly westward down Main Street in the heart of Dallas. The time about 12:20 during the noon hour. Heavy crowds from downtown offices lining the route. That looks like the School Depository Building on the right, I’m not sure. This, this is the scene of confusion. Something has happened here. The cameraman running towards the scene for the presidential car ahead of him. We caught just a blurred glance of the old School Depository Building from which the sniper fired the shot. This is the reaction from the crowd. All is confusion at the scene. Here a woman shelters herself. Now racing towards the hospital…”
Continuing to describe the scenes at the hospital, Murphy closes at the end of the film clip with, “Later films as they are developed, as they arrive here will be shown.” As the film was very jerky and atypical of on-air broadcast quality, Bill Ryan back in New York felt compelled to explain, “As Murphy pointed out to you there, that was unscreened, which meant that he saw it for the very first time, as you saw it, unedited films of what happened - some of what happened in the the motorcade. If I might explain to you that blurry and blurry and confusing scene. Obviously what happened when the shots were fired, the cameraman was riding in one of the cars behind the President, very wisely kept his camera running, even as he jumped from the car and ran towards the President’s car and then over towards the people who were shielding themselves ducking down, trying to avoid what was going on. It was the only way the cameraman could have gotten you a picture of what went on. He very wisely took no time to try and align the spring on the camera, or anything else. Just keep it rolling, get as much picture as possible, and get as close as possible to the scene of action. That is what the cameraman did, that is why it looked somewhat unorthodox in terms of what we are used to seeing, and that is why it is such a precious piece of film, because the cameraman thought.”

For the remainder of the day and into the next, this remarkable film was periodically rebroadcast cast, though in a cut-down format with some 13 seconds of Wiegman’s quick, jiggling run to the grassy knoll being cut out of the original 37-seconds-sequence at Dealey Plaza.

Trask cites a reference of: (56) Videotape of NBC coverage, 11/22/1963 (TNN 255:4)

Dale Myers cites a reference of: Wiegman Film - Courtesy of NBC News Archives

Rumor!??     I don’t think so.