Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #133 on: January 11, 2025, 04:14:51 PM »
No. I was referring to his WC testimony (2H158):

Mr. JACKSON. Well, as our reporter chased the film out into the street, we all looked back at him and were laughing, and it was approximately that time that we heard the first shot, and we had already rounded the corner, of course, when we heard the first shot. We were approximately almost half a block on
Houston Street.

Why would he be mistaken in thinking he was almost halfway down Houston when the first shot was fired if he was actually on Main? There was a specific event that he referred to as being before the first shot and which is captured on Hughes film.

Furthermore, his recollection fits with Betzner, Croft, Willis, occupants of the VP and VP security car and conflicts with nothing.
Unusual for whom? His film is full of breaks.  Film was  not to be wasted in those days. He stopped after the President’s car turned.
He seems to be agreeing with Jackson that the first shot occurred after Jackson had tossed the film as they turned the corner.


Unusual for whom? His film is full of breaks.  Film was  not to be wasted in those days.

Extremely unusual for anyone period. No one would intentionally stop filming for 1/3 of a second only to resume filming the same stinking thing. If you believe otherwise, please show us an example.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #134 on: January 11, 2025, 04:22:53 PM »
No. I was referring to his WC testimony (2H158):

Mr. JACKSON. Well, as our reporter chased the film out into the street, we all looked back at him and were laughing, and it was approximately that time that we heard the first shot, and we had already rounded the corner, of course, when we heard the first shot. We were approximately almost half a block on
Houston Street.

Why would he be mistaken in thinking he was almost halfway down Houston when the first shot was fired if he was actually on Main? There was a specific event that he referred to as being before the first shot and which is captured on Hughes film.

Furthermore, his recollection fits with Betzner, Croft, Willis, occupants of the VP and VP security car and conflicts with nothing.
Unusual for whom? His film is full of breaks.  Film was  not to be wasted in those days. He stopped after the President’s car turned.
He seems to be agreeing with Jackson that the first shot occurred after Jackson had tossed the film as they turned the corner.


He seems to be agreeing with Jackson that the first shot occurred after Jackson had tossed the film as they turned the corner.

Yes, they both say pretty much the same thing. And that is where camera car 3 is located when the 1/3-second stoppage happens. It has just cleared the crosswalk stripes. And, according to Couch’s account, it wasn’t until the second shot sounded that they began to turn to look towards the TSBD. Therefore your apparent idea that they hadn’t reacted to the first shot means it hadn’t happened yet is mute.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #135 on: January 11, 2025, 04:24:44 PM »
  You guys like quoting Couch. Yet, you Fail to recognize that he felt it was important to include in his WC Testimony that he saw an 8"-10" BLOOD POOL along the Elm St Extension/TSBD. Also, when testifying as to this BLOOD POOL, Couch also testified that people gathered around this same BLOOD POOL were commenting on shots being fired through the SHRUBS. Those same SHRUBS ran along the Elm St Extension directly across the street from the TSBD. We see DPD Officer Joe Marshall Smith running down the Elm St Ext on the Couch Film. Officer Smith gave WC Testimony that he ran down the Elm St Ext immediately after the Kill Shot due to a woman in "hysterics" coming up to him and saying, "they are shooting the president from the BUSHES". Smith then ran down the Elm St Ext checking these Bushes/Shrubs as filmed by Couch. So we have an 8"-10" Blood Pool, along with 2 separate reports of shots being fired through the BUSHES/SHRUBS. All of this being within mere feet of the TSBD. 
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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #136 on: January 11, 2025, 09:00:22 PM »
  You guys like quoting Couch. Yet, you Fail to recognize that he felt it was important to include in his WC Testimony that he saw an 8"-10" BLOOD POOL along the Elm St Extension/TSBD. Also, when testifying as to this BLOOD POOL, Couch also testified that people gathered around this same BLOOD POOL were commenting on shots being fired through the SHRUBS. Those same SHRUBS ran along the Elm St Extension directly across the street from the TSBD. We see DPD Officer Joe Marshall Smith running down the Elm St Ext on the Couch Film. Officer Smith gave WC Testimony that he ran down the Elm St Ext immediately after the Kill Shot due to a woman in "hysterics" coming up to him and saying, "they are shooting the president from the BUSHES". Smith then ran down the Elm St Ext checking these Bushes/Shrubs as filmed by Couch. So we have an 8"-10" Blood Pool, along with 2 separate reports of shots being fired through the BUSHES/SHRUBS. All of this being within mere feet of the TSBD.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #137 on: January 12, 2025, 03:58:20 PM »
Cherry cola.

   "Cherry cola" per WHO? And do not confuse the location of the "Couch 8"-10" Blood Pool" with whatever was on the ground near the Zapruder Perch. These are Not the same thing, same location, etc.

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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #138 on: January 13, 2025, 03:00:39 AM »
10.2 secs? So just ignore the 2/3rds of the witness who heard the shots fired rapidly and the last 2 shots so close that they were described as “back to back”?

ignore Lee Bowers camera interview (recorded by Mark Lane)reenactment of the shots them rapping his hand on the desk in like 3 seconds.

Talk about “ full of beans” LOL



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Re: Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.
« Reply #139 on: January 13, 2025, 03:51:22 AM »
10.2 secs? So just ignore the 2/3rds of the witness who heard the shots fired rapidly and the last 2 shots so close that they were described as “back to back”?

Oswald's first, steeply-downward-angled, shot at "Z-124" (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming) was muffled because he was standing (and awkwardly leaning forward) when he fired it and therefore the muzzle of his short-rifle was inside the building.

He knelt down for his second and third shots farther down the street and therefore the muzzle of his short-rifle was outside the building when he fired them.

The timing of those two shots confused earwitnesses because the muzzle blasts from Oswald's short-rifle and the supersonic "cracks" of the bullets echoed around in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.