T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2024, 03:47:37 PM »
Thanks Richard, yeah, the pointless motivation for someone who literally says that they "don't give a damn" if Oswald is guilty or innocent and only debates here because he "finds it(the evidence) highly dubious" is truly surreal.

At the end of the day the Absolute Monster that was Lee Harvey Oswald, killed two good Men and left three Women as widowers and a stack of children fatherless, I hope Oswald is suffering painfully in Eternal Damnation! And to think some Conspiracy Theorists who couldn't deductively reason their way out of a wet paper bag, misguidedly defend this Maniac??







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Great post John!

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2024, 04:07:39 PM »
Thanks Richard, yeah, the pointless motivation for someone who literally says that they "don't give a damn" if Oswald is guilty or innocent and only debates here because he "finds it(the evidence) highly dubious" is truly surreal.

At the end of the day the Absolute Monster that was Lee Harvey Oswald, killed two good Men and left three Women as widowers and a stack of children fatherless, I hope Oswald is suffering painfully in Eternal Damnation! And to think some Conspiracy Theorists who couldn't deductively reason their way out of a wet paper bag, misguidedly defend this Maniac??







JohnM

This is a very good post. It brings home the reality of who and what Lee Harvey Oswald really was.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2024, 09:27:43 PM »
At the end of the day the Absolute Monster that was Lee Harvey Oswald, killed two good Men and left three Women as widowers and a stack of children fatherless, I hope Oswald is suffering painfully in Eternal Damnation! And to think some Conspiracy Theorists who couldn't deductively reason their way out of a wet paper bag, misguidedly defend this Maniac?? - John Mytton

The words of a guy who considers himself to be a rational researcher....... Absolutely hilarious!

The faux dramatics are so over the top that they can only be considered entertaining.

Even if Oswald did kill Kennedy and Tippit, he's been dead for 60 years, which means that Mytton was only a child or a teenager when the killings took place. He is, just like most of us, an outsider to this case. To nevertheless build up so much hatred towards a long dead invidual who never had his day in court and Mytton only believes to be guilty is utterly insane.

Do I defend Oswald? No, but I also don't declare him guilty based on the crappy evidence the WC and guys like Mytton come up with. And that's precisely what Mytton and his ilk can't handle. It goes against their "if you are not with us, you are against us" cult mantra. There is no rationality involved here or common sense. It's utter dishonesty driven by pure hatred. I have yet to meet one LN who is willing to conceed that there are obvious problems with the evidence and they way it was handled. Guys like Mytton "just know that Oswald did it" no matter how many problems there are with the evidence. Truth be told, I'm not really sure why LNs are so irrational that they believe the evidence to be 100% correct and conclusive, when nothing in the world is ever 100% correct and conclusive. Sometimes I think it's because they actually believe that the evidence is 100% correct and conclusive, but at other times I think they are just too afraid to admit that something is not right with the evidence because it might lead them on a path of discovery on which they will find that what they believe actually isn't true or conclusive at all.

Anyway, this is why Mytton will never understand that there are also people who are and can be neutral observers who just want to examine the evidence against Oswald. I'll be the first to declare Oswald guilty if the evidence conclusively showed that, but it doesn't and that's where Mytton's problem really lies. He can not argue the case or discuss the evidence beyond what is written in his bible (the Bugliosi doorstopper) and the WC report. And Mytton isn't the only one. There are several LNs on this forum who will tell you that what they argue is the truth, but when asked a simple question they are unable to answer it and either ignore the question or run. It's pathetic!

Let me give an example. Months ago, Richard Smith, argued that Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor and that was proof that Oswald himself was on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting. When asked how the presence of a rifle, even if it did in fact belong to Oswald, can be proof that Oswald himself was on the 6th floor when Kennedy was killed, he fell silent. It's been months and he still hasn't come up with an answer! See where this is going?

But it's also great entertaiment to see guys like Mytton and Smith making fools of themselves time after time. It's actually a good reason to continue posting on this forum....  Thumb1:

Oh btw, it's highly likely that Mytton's compulsive nature will compel him to respond to this post with a childish comment like "I thought you said you would ignore me", but that only shows two things; (1) his infantile nature and (2) that he is really nothing more than a troll who tries to provoke responses. This time I figured it was worth to give him what he wanted as it would blow up in his face, which of course it did!  :D
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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #143 on: June 15, 2024, 04:50:52 PM »
In which we learn that because a wrong like double murder was committed in the past it is not a big deal.  Poor Oswald.  So many people are still picking on him.  Hitler and Jack the Ripper must welcome this interpretation of history.  Everyone should just leave them alone and get over it.  It happened in the past.  HA HA HA.  Comedy gold.

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #144 on: June 15, 2024, 06:10:36 PM »
Well ok Bill , you are more the expert than I am, so There must be a fake image when you type in something like “Oswald’s line up “ in the search on the Bing browser , and then check images. Theres an image which has Oswald in just T- shirt flanked  on either side by 2 taller men wearing suit and tie, (I kid you not) and the no 4 guy at the end has a nice collar short sleeve sports shirt.

So that’s my mistake  about “suit and tie” unless  somebody else can confirm that image as valid.

 However, there is still  Gil Jesus examination of the line ups which cause some reason to doubt if all the witness would have chosen Oswald if there were 3 other men with disheveled look and a similar bruise or cut and ALL were wearing only  white T-shirts and all were the same age( no teenagers ) as Oswald.

And each witness separately view the lineup individually and without any knowledge of whom
other witnesses picked until after the lineups were concluded.

Zeon, your first mistake is trusting a guy like Gil Jesus. He's dishonest.

That "lineup" photo you speak of has most definitely been faked; it's not a real photo.

In the summer of '64, the FBI visited Perry, Clark and Ables (the three men in the photo) in order to get a photograph of them for no other reason than to record forever what the three men look like. That two of them (Perry and Clark) are wearing suit and tie in that photo only means that is what they were wearing the day the FBI visited them in order to photograph them.

Conspiracy Kooks who either don't know any better or are lying then take that photo and doctor it by placing Oswald among them, though Oswald had been dead for six months by the time the photo was taken.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2024, 06:26:58 PM by Bill Brown »

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #145 on: June 15, 2024, 06:27:17 PM »
In which we learn that because a wrong like double murder was committed in the past it is not a big deal.  Poor Oswald.  So many people are still picking on him.  Hitler and Jack the Ripper must welcome this interpretation of history.  Everyone should just leave them alone and get over it.  It happened in the past.  HA HA HA.  Comedy gold.

In which we learn that because a wrong like double murder was committed in the past it is not a big deal.

Who said that?

Oh, wait... It's Richard claiming that.... must be something he just made it up. Par for the course, really...

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