T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17

[Michael Capasse]

I guess a suit jacket was nice enough not to be chosen.

[Zeon Mason]

Well ok Bill , you are more the expert than I am, so There must be a fake image when you type in something like “Oswald’s line up “ in the search on the Bing browser , and then check images. Theres an image which has Oswald in just T- shirt flanked  on either side by 2 taller men wearing suit and tie, (I kid you not) and the no 4 guy at the end has a nice collar short sleeve sports shirt.

So that’s my mistake  about “suit and tie” unless  somebody else can confirm that image as valid.

 However, there is still  Gil Jesus examination of the line ups which cause some reason to doubt if all the witness would have chosen Oswald if there were 3 other men with disheveled look and a similar bruise or cut and ALL were wearing only  white T-shirts and all were the same age( no teenagers ) as Oswald.

And each witness separately view the lineup individually and without any knowledge of whom
other witnesses picked until after the lineups were concluded.

[John Mytton]

Well ok Bill , you are more the expert than I am, so There must be a fake image when you type in something like “Oswald’s line up “ in the search on the Bing browser , and then check images. Theres an image which has Oswald in just T- shirt flanked  on either side by 2 taller men wearing suit and tie, (I kid you not) and the no 4 guy at the end has a nice collar short sleeve sports shirt.

So that’s my mistake  about “suit and tie” unless  somebody else can confirm that image as valid.

 However, there is still  Gil Jesus examination of the line ups which cause some reason to doubt if all the witness would have chosen Oswald if there were 3 other men with disheveled look and a similar bruise or cut and ALL were wearing only  white T-shirts and all were the same age( no teenagers ) as Oswald.

And each witness separately view the lineup individually and without any knowledge of whom
other witnesses picked until after the lineups were concluded.

You can't honestly expect clones, the lineups were alright.



The following guys all look the same height and weight. If anything Oswald and all the guys had different clothes, so no one uniquely stood out. In fact Oswald looked nothing like he did at the time he murdered Tippit and this surely gave him an advantage. And don't forget we aren't talking about some murder in a dark alley, this was outside in full on daylight and a stack of eyewitnesses all got a decent look at the guy with a gun.



The image you saw on the net was based on a Commission Exhibit with a manipulated too small Oswald.





For comparison, some other Line-ups.





JohnM

[John Mytton]

First of all, it's up to you not me, to prove any inaccuracy of a public clock which thousands and thousands of citizens relied upon!!
Do you have a single piece of evidence to suggest that the Hertz public clock was off the City Hall time by 1 second or even a minute?

Oh no you don't. You don't get to make a claim about the Hertz clock being 100% correct and then say that I have to prove you wrong. That's typical LN crap which makes it an exercise in futility to try to have a normal conversation with you.

Sorry Martin, you don't understand that YOUR claim is YOUR problem, if you want to claim that the Official Hertz Public Clock which was proven to be perfectly synchronized with the Official Dallas Police Clock were unbelievably both wrong, then YOU must provide proof! It's as simple as that.
I eagerly await your proof.

The areas on the document where the DOA is written and the actual time of death are in two completely unconnected different sections.
The document does say that Tippit arrived DOA and then the certificate also specifically says the actual time of death was 1:15.

You can't be this stupid. On the left side it says under the line "Place of death" (which is DOA Methodist Hospital) and on the right it says "Date and time of death" which is 1:15 PM November 22, 1963.

Hilarious, you couldn't be more wrong, the "Place of death" was at the corner of Tenth and Patton and the "Date and time of death" was therefore correctly estimated @ 1:15 PM November 22, 1963.

So in summary.

1. The eyewitness evidence overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
2. The forensic evidence of the discarded shells overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
3. The forensic evidence of one of the bullets in Tippit exclusively matched by Ballistics Expert Nicol, overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
4. The physical evidence of the discarded Jacket near the crime scene overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
5. Oswald in the Texas Theater pulling the exact same revolver while trying to kill more Police Officers, overwhelming proves it was Oswald.

JohnM

[Richard Smith]

Sorry Martin, you don't understand that YOUR claim is YOUR problem, if you want to claim that the Official Hertz Public Clock which was proven to be perfectly synchronized with the Official Dallas Police Clock were unbelievably both wrong, then YOU must provide proof! It's as simple as that.
I eagerly await your proof.



Hilarious, you couldn't be more wrong, the "Place of death" was at the corner of Tenth and Patton and the "Date and time of death" was therefore correctly estimated @ 1:15 PM November 22, 1963.

So in summary.

1. The eyewitness evidence overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
2. The forensic evidence of the discarded shells overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
3. The forensic evidence of one of the bullets in Tippit exclusively matched by Ballistics Expert Nicol, overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
4. The physical evidence of the discarded Jacket near the crime scene overwhelming proves it was Oswald.
5. Oswald in the Texas Theater pulling the exact same revolver while trying to kill more Police Officers, overwhelming proves it was Oswald.

JohnM

Great post John but this is hopeless.  The same pattern.  Ask for evidence, be given evidence, suggest evidence is fake or wrong but without providing any explanation or evidence for why that is the case.  Deny you are suggesting a conspiracy.  Ask others to disprove your baseless claim that something is "possible."  Rinse and repeat.

[Martin Weidmann]

Great post John but this is hopeless.  The same pattern.  Ask for evidence, be given evidence, suggest evidence is fake or wrong but without providing any explanation or evidence for why that is the case.  Deny you are suggesting a conspiracy.  Ask others to disprove your baseless claim that something is "possible."  Rinse and repeat.

Classic LN. Present a clock on a building, without any evidence for the alleged accuracy of that clock and call it "evidence"

Just like, in Richard's delusional mind, the presence of a rifle for which no conclusive authentication is provided somehow is "evidence" that Oswald was on the 6th floor of the TSBD at the time of the shooting. Not to mention the all time classic that the "evidence" for Oswald coming down the stairs of the TSBD within 75 seconds after the shooting, according to Richard, is that it happend

The LN play book is always the same; make a claim not supported by authentication or evidence and say you are right unless somebody proves you wrong!

[John Mytton]

Great post John but this is hopeless.  The same pattern.  Ask for evidence, be given evidence, suggest evidence is fake or wrong but without providing any explanation or evidence for why that is the case.  Deny you are suggesting a conspiracy.  Ask others to disprove your baseless claim that something is "possible."  Rinse and repeat.

Thanks Richard, yeah, the pointless motivation for someone who literally says that they "don't give a damn" if Oswald is guilty or innocent and only debates here because he "finds it(the evidence) highly dubious" is truly surreal.

At the end of the day the Absolute Monster that was Lee Harvey Oswald, killed two good Men and left three Women as widowers and a stack of children fatherless, I hope Oswald is suffering painfully in Eternal Damnation! And to think some Conspiracy Theorists who couldn't deductively reason their way out of a wet paper bag, misguidedly defend this Maniac??







JohnM