That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge

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Re: That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge
« Reply #176 on: March 22, 2026, 05:26:46 PM »
After leaving the RR yard Murray stood on the grassy knoll and photographed the crowd gathered on N Elm, including the area near the parked motorcycle of Clyde Haygood. His helmet is visible in the photo near his bike. Murray also caught the north peristyle wall with an advancing shadow moving southward about 3-4” per minute. Modeling this wall shadow allows an estimation of the time as 12:36.


My original posting on this technique can be found in this forum here.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2013.msg54679.html#google_vignette

   The above Nutty Professor hocus-pocus is needless overkill. We know that Officer Haygood made a documented 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked right there at the Elm St curb. This means the Darnell still frame allegedly showing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness happened at 12:34. The alleged 12:34 Darnell still frame showing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness is physically impossible. After interviewing an eyewitness, Officer Harkness made a documented 12:36 police radio transmission. He said he was bringing in a witness/Amos Euins to the TSBD. Harkness then put Euins on the back of his 3 wheel motorcycle: (1) Took Euins to the TSBD, (2) Loaded him into the back seat of Inspector Sawyer's car, and (3) Then established security behind the TSBD. THIS, is when where we see Harkness in that Darnell still frame. The time would be 12:38. Only, that ain't Officer Haygood with Harkness on the Darnell still frame. We know this because Officer Haygood was already back at his motorcycle making his documented radio transmission at 12:35.  Who is this "One Glove Cop"? Where is his motorcycle? Where did he come from? Where is he going?   

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« Reply #177 on: March 22, 2026, 05:27:41 PM »
Thanks Dan and Royell. This image appears to me to show that the cop’s holster is on his right thigh. Also, something is in his left hand (perhaps his glove?). I would assume that he removed his right glove with his left hand to be able to draw and handle his weapon better, if necessary. I suspect that this is standard operating procedure when a cop is walking towards a building with potentially an armed assassin inside. Just my opinion.

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« Reply #178 on: March 22, 2026, 05:34:08 PM »
I haven’t seen the footage that shows one glove missing from Michael Jackson

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   The above Nutty Professor hocus-pocus is needless overkill. We know that Officer Haygood made a documented 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked right there at the Elm St curb. This means the Darnell still frame allegedly showing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness happened at 12:34. The alleged 12:34 Darnell still frame showing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness is physically impossible. After interviewing an eyewitness, Officer Harkness made a documented 12:36 police radio transmission. He said he was bringing in a witness/Amos Euins to the TSBD. Harkness then put Euins on the back of his 3 wheel motorcycle: (1) Took Euins to the TSBD, (2) Loaded him into the back seat of Inspector Sawyer's car, and (3) Then established security behind the TSBD. THIS, is when where we see Harkness in that Darnell still frame. The time would be 12:38. Only, that ain't Officer Haygood with Harkness on the Darnell still frame. We know this because Officer Haygood was already back at his motorcycle making his documented radio transmission at 12:35.  Who is this "One Glove Cop"? Where is his motorcycle? Where did he come from? Where is he going?
Hi Royell. Thanks for the shout-out of my Wall Shadow Clock method being consistent with your 12:36 Murray/Haygood time estimate. I appreciate that.

 Will you tell me where on your timeline is Jimmy Darnell standing behind the park bench at the retaining wall, filming the infield and gathering around the Elm street sidewalk etc.? Thanks!

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Hi Royell. Thanks for the shout-out of my Wall Shadow Clock method being consistent with your 12:36 Murray/Haygood time estimate. I appreciate that.

 Will you tell me where on your timeline is Jimmy Darnell standing behind the park bench at the retaining wall, filming the infield and gathering around the Elm street sidewalk etc.? Thanks!

   James -  After Darnell filmed that segment showing the retaining wall, Elm St, etc, he then filmed the interview of Sitzman there at the Pergola Shelter. After that, Darnell filmed those "3 girls" walking down the knoll below the Pergola. Richard Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain" did not provide a timeline for this film segment. I realized that these same "3 Girls" were also  filmed by Tina Towner at the very end of her film. (I can't be sure, but it looks like the same 3 Girls). Trask time stamped this  Towner film "3 Girls" segment to be at, "About 10 minutes" after the shooting. This same Towner segment showing the "3 Girls", also shows a man running down from the Pergola shelter area. He begins to circle around in front of the girls. This man might be Darnell getting into position to film his own segment of these same 3 girls. It's a rough estimate, but figure around 12:40 for the Darnell film segment you asked about.

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   James -  After Darnell filmed that segment showing the retaining wall, Elm St, etc, he then filmed the interview of Sitzman there at the Pergola Shelter. After that, Darnell filmed those "3 girls" walking down the knoll below the Pergola. Richard Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain" did not provide a timeline for this film segment. I realized that these same "3 Girls" were also  filmed by Tina Towner at the very end of her film. (I can't be sure, but it looks like the same 3 Girls). Trask time stamped this  Towner film "3 Girls" segment to be at, "About 10 minutes" after the shooting. This same Towner segment showing the "3 Girls", also shows a man running down from the Pergola shelter area. He begins to circle around in front of the girls. This man might be Darnell getting into position to film his own segment of these same 3 girls. It's a rough estimate, but figure around 12:40 for the Darnell film segment you asked about.

Dear Royell,

Those three young women -- self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Jeanne Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons -- still(?) mislabeled in the Zapruder film as "Gloria Calvery," "Karan Hicks," and "Carol Reed," respectively, by the likes of Don Roberdeau and Robin Unger, were filmed walking across the concrete "patio" on the Grassy Knoll several minutes after the assassination NOT by Tina Towner, but by Tina Towner's father, Mr. Towner, with Tina Towner's camera.

You really should improve the quality of your so-called "JFKA research," Royell.

-- Tom
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Dear Royell,

Those three young women -- self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Jeanne Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons -- still(?) mislabeled in the Zapruder film as "Gloria Calvery," "Karan Hicks," and "Carol Reed," respectively, by the likes of Don Roberdeau and Robin Unger, were filmed walking across the concrete "patio" on the Grassy Knoll several minutes after the assassination NOT by Tina Towner, but by Tina Towner's father, Mr. Towner, with Tina Towner's camera.

You really should improve the quality of your so-called "JFKA research," Royell.

-- Tom

   "Pictures Of The Pain" (1994)   by - Richard Trask.  This book is considered the Bible regarding JFK Assassination Images. Page 219/Paragraph 2. "Tina".
    If you ever do get serious about doing JFK Assassination Research, this book should be at your fingertips.

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"Pictures of the Pain" (1994)   by - Richard Trask.  This book is considered the Bible regarding JFK Assassination Images. Page 219/Paragraph 2. "Tina." If you ever do get serious about doing JFK Assassination Research, this book should be at your fingertips.

Okay, maybe you're right.

At least now you know who those three "girls" were.
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