TSBD Encirclement & Sealing.... Who? When? Where? Why? How?

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is a view of the Houston Dock.
Actually, according to Romack, Barnett went further than the drawn star, i should have drawn Barnett's star further north, between the first 2 sets of tracks (total number of tracks crossing Houston St is 6 i think).
Romack said that Barnett kept walking/running until Barnett could see down the rear of the building, ie Barnett ran to almost the 2nd set of tracks (which is just out of picture).
In my earlier aerial pix the star drawn for Barnett's furthest location is correctly drawn between Track-1 & Track-2.
In the pix below we can see a double-side-entry-(drainage)-pit at about where Barnett would have stopped.
Usually that kind of DSEP is constructed in conjunction with concrete kerbing & tarmac (ie along the side of a fully constructed road), but (as can be seen) the kerbing on the west side of Houston St south of the tracks has stopped short of the tracks. And it looks like gravel (or crushed rock) to me (not tarmac) at the entrance to the DSEP ie between the tracks.
Adams had said that Barnett (ie a cop) was 2 yd out into Houston St when she saw him. Prap he was near the DSEP. Or, praps he had gone back south to near the kerb proper.
If Barnett was facing Romack (ie talking to Romack) then Barnett might have missed seeing Adams & Styles, but Romack should not have missed seeing.

In the below pix we see a boxcar. On that Fri 22nov1963 there were 2 boxcars on the track.
And as can be seen the 1st track splits, & 1A goes along close to the annexe. 1B also bends a little & ends much further west than 1A (1B was empty on that Friday).
I doubt that 1A (ie rail boxcars) were ever used by the TSBD (inbound or outbound). I reckon that the TSBD used road transport only (& possibly pigeons).
Rail boxcars would have delivered fruit & veggies to the Houston Dock & to the Elm Dock in the old days. In thems days the docks were fully open along the rail track (no doors needed).

By the way, the high fence partly blocking the Adams & Styles circumnavigation of the TSBD (see earlier aereal photo) was constructed by the TSBD (according to Truly).

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Frazier chases after Shelley & Lovelady for 20yd before doubling back to the front stairs, & then walking to the corner.
Frasier then sees Oswald (from a distance of 10ft to 12ft) walking from (Frazier thinks) the Houston Dock (but Oswald actually exited via the front door while Frazier was away).
Oswald wanted to enter via the Houston Dock, to get his jacket from the Domino Room.
But Oswald sees Officer Barnett on sentry near the Dock, & Barnett looks vicious, so, Oswald duz a u-turn, & kisses his jacket goodbye.
Frazier sees Oswald cross Houston St, & then cross a half of Elm St, before Oswald disappears into the crowd.
This is about 140 sec after the shots.
Officer Barnett follows closely behind Oswald (not shown), & takes up sentry near that corner (not shown). This is about 150 sec after the shots.
Brennan comes out of hiding (not shown) & tells Barnett that Brennan saw Oswald with a rifle in an upper window (not shown).

At 150 sec Adams & Styles (walking around the rear to the TSBD) would not yet have reached Elms St extn.
They eventually get to the front doors.

Shelley & Lovelady are at 150 sec standing at the end of Elm St extn watching the antics in the railway carpark.
They eventually return to the TSBD, entering via the western ramp & door that Shelley uses every morning from the staff carpark into the Elm St loading dock.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Ok, i am now thinking that it was Patrolman JC White that confronted Adams & Styles.
Duz anyone know of any other info re White's movements?
White's reference to a passing train is a mystery. Did a train pass soon after the shots. Has anyone any info?
I recall (photos) that White walked over & joined Officer Foster soon after the shots, ie before any train went throo.
White was a strange character, saw & heard nuthun (praps he was smarter than the others).

Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Is there a rail there?
Mr. WHITE. *Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. How many people were on that overpass that day?
Mr. WHITE. On the same side I was on?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. WHITE. None.
Mr. BALL. None? Any people attempt to come up on the overpass around noon?
Mr. WHITE. Not on my side.
Mr. BALL. They did not?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Had you seen your partner send any people away from the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You had certain instructions, didn’t you?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What were they?
Mr. WHITE. Not to let any unauthorized personnel on top of the overpass.
Mr. BALL. Now, you did permit some people to stay on the overpass, didn’t you?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Mr. WHJJ~E. Workers of the railroad company.
Mr. BALL. Were they people you knew?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Well, how did you know they were workers with the railroad company?
Mr. WHITE. Majority of them were there when we got there, working on the rails.
Mr. BALL. And you let them stay there?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the President’s car come into sight?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir; ilrst time I saw it it has passed, passed under the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. You were too far away to see it, were you?
Mr. WHITE. There was a freight train traveling. There was a train passing between the location I was standing and the area from which the procession was traveling, and-a big long freight train, and I did not see it.
Mr. BALL. You didn’t see the procession?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Before the train went by, did you see some railroad personnel over on the-would it be the---
Mr. WHITE. East side?
Mr. BALL. East side of the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. B~L. How many people?
Mr. WHITE. About 10, approximately. I didn’t count them.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear any shots?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BUL. Didn’t?
Mr. WHI’IIL No, sir.
Mr. BALL. First time you saw the President’s car it was going underneath?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What did you do after that?
Mr. WHITE. As soon as the train passed I went over and on the northwest side of the Depository Building.
On the northwest side of the book store up there with the rest of the ofseers and after about 30 minutes they told me to go out and work tra5c at Main and Houston, and I stood out there and worked tra5c.
Mr. BALL. All right, now, you heard no sound of no rifle fire or anything?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.

[Martin Weidmann]

Ok, i am now thinking that it was Patrolman JC White that confronted Adams & Styles.
Duz anyone know of any other info re White's movements?
White's reference to a passing train is a mystery. Did a train pass soon after the shots. Has anyone any info?
I recall (photos) that White walked over & joined Officer Foster soon after the shots, ie before any train went throo.
White was a strange character, saw & heard nuthun (praps he was smarter than the others).

Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Is there a rail there?
Mr. WHITE. *Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. How many people were on that overpass that day?
Mr. WHITE. On the same side I was on?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. WHITE. None.
Mr. BALL. None? Any people attempt to come up on the overpass around noon?
Mr. WHITE. Not on my side.
Mr. BALL. They did not?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Had you seen your partner send any people away from the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You had certain instructions, didn’t you?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What were they?
Mr. WHITE. Not to let any unauthorized personnel on top of the overpass.
Mr. BALL. Now, you did permit some people to stay on the overpass, didn’t you?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Mr. WHJJ~E. Workers of the railroad company.
Mr. BALL. Were they people you knew?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Well, how did you know they were workers with the railroad company?
Mr. WHITE. Majority of them were there when we got there, working on the rails.
Mr. BALL. And you let them stay there?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the President’s car come into sight?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir; ilrst time I saw it it has passed, passed under the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. You were too far away to see it, were you?
Mr. WHITE. There was a freight train traveling. There was a train passing between the location I was standing and the area from which the procession was traveling, and-a big long freight train, and I did not see it.
Mr. BALL. You didn’t see the procession?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Before the train went by, did you see some railroad personnel over on the-would it be the---
Mr. WHITE. East side?
Mr. BALL. East side of the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. B~L. How many people?
Mr. WHITE. About 10, approximately. I didn’t count them.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear any shots?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BUL. Didn’t?
Mr. WHI’IIL No, sir.
Mr. BALL. First time you saw the President’s car it was going underneath?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What did you do after that?
Mr. WHITE. As soon as the train passed I went over and on the northwest side of the Depository Building.
On the northwest side of the book store up there with the rest of the ofseers and after about 30 minutes they told me to go out and work tra5c at Main and Houston, and I stood out there and worked tra5c.
Mr. BALL. All right, now, you heard no sound of no rifle fire or anything?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.

White's reference to a passing train is a mystery. Did a train pass soon after the shots. Has anyone any info?

I do remember having seen a train passing by the pergola next to the TSBD parking lot, but I can't recal where I saw that

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Photo below now edited to replace Foster with White.
Anyhow, i think we can ignore the puzzling reference to a train passing, & we can assume that White went to the NW cnr of the TSBD without delay.
In which case we can assume that White beat Adams & Styles to the NW cnr.
But, why did White go to the NW cnr?
I think that Foster told White about shots from up near the TSBD. And White took off immediately, & Foster followed White to near the TSBD later (after Foster had a brief look at the carpark with Brennan & Co).
White said that other Officers went to the TSBD too. Who were they?
Foster was one. The others ran to the grassy knoll & carpark from Houston (ie Smith & Smith), & some ran from Main St east of Houston (eg Deputy Sheriff Mooney & Co).
And of course some (on motorbikes) were from the motorcade itself.
But there were no Officers stationed in Elm St itself between Houston St & the TUP.
Anyhow, after wasting their time in & around the carpark, checking cars etc, some Officers took off & searched railway boxcars, &/or encircled the TSBD.
Mooney & Co took sentry near the Houston Dock for a while, at which time Romack relaxed his vigil (but he stayed put in that area for a while anyhow before returning to his workplace)(say 45 minutes).

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

White's reference to a passing train is a mystery. Did a train pass soon after the shots. Has anyone any info?

I do remember having seen a train passing by the pergola next to the TSBD parking lot, but I can't recal where I saw that

Bowers would have halted trains (on the TUP) untill the motorcade passed.
But i dont remember Bowers ever saying that he indeed halted a train.
I suspect that a train passed over the TUP a little before the motorcade passed, but while White was there.
I think that White's memory was foggy --- too many doughnuts (or was White smarter than the average bear?).

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

James Hackerott found the wordage of Foster in Sneed's No More Silence.

J.W. Foster in No More Silence, p212
 .................... “At the time the motorcade came through, there were about seven or eight people up there. As you looked down, I was standing over the third lane from the north curb of Elm Street. Four or five were  standing right in front of me, and there were several on down the trestle away from me.
Just prior to the shots, a three engine locomotive went by, so there wasn’t a lot that you could see or hear from up there even though the locomotive had already passed and just the boxcars were going by at the time the motorcade passed through.”...........................

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