JFK What the doctors saw.....Parkland hospital

[Steve Barber]

    JFK is clutching at his throat/chest. Jackie is Pulling DOWNWARD on his arm/wrist to try and reveal whatever his hand is Covering/Not permitting her to see. This sort of thing goes on daily with assorted injuries. We see it on athletic fields around the world on almost a daily basis. This extended "discussion" of the obvious is indicative of the dire straits that LN's now find themselves in after the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE declared the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". It's ALL suddenly crashing down!

  In this Zapruder frame, where are JFK's hand located?   JFK is "clutching" Nothing!  He never clutched his throat, Storing,


 
   

[Jim Hawthorn]

   Go over to You Tube and search, "All Copies Of The Orville Nix Film of the JFK Motorcade" by The JFK Theorist. He has posted several copies of the NIX FILM on that piece. 2 of the copies belong to Bob Groden. It runs 7:40 total.  Then, let's discuss what you deem, "....suddenly knocked forward".

All those are too blurry. Again, the Nix head-shot zoom on the previous page, clearly shows that his head suddenly snapped forward before moving backwards (nerve reflex for the latter). His head movements had nothing to do with Jackie.
That forward snap (the bullet impact) is clearly visible at Zapruder 312/313 also:

[Jim Hawthorn]

These are the actual observations of some of the doctors at Parkland Memorial Hospital on 22 November 1963, as interviewed by Gerald Posner in 1992 for his book Case Closed. It will clear up any misguided conceptions of the preposterously outlandish claim of a large wound in the rear of the President's head.

All that is interesting and perplexing as so many others saw a gaping wound in the side-to-rear of his head, from Clint Hill right up to the embalmer!


SSA Clint Hill: The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

DP witness Phil Willis: It took the back of his head off

DP witness Marilyn Willis: Matter was coming out the back of his head

Nurse Diana Bowron: There was a gaping wound in the back of his head. It was gone. Gone. There was nothing there. Just a big gaping hole. There might have been little clumps of scalp, but most of the bone over the hole, there was no bone there. There was no damage to the front of his face, only wound in the back of his head and the entry wound in his throat. The wound was so large I could almost put my whole fist into it[/i]

Nurse Doris Nelson: There wasn’t even hair back there. It was blown away. All that area was blown out (when shown the rear of head autopsy photo)

Nurse Pat Hutton: A doctor asked me to place a pressure dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the massive opening on the back of the head.

Dr Malcolm Perry: there was blood noted on the carriage and a large avulsive wound on the right posterior cranium.

Dr Robert McClelland: I was in such a position that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted… we did not lift his head up since it was so greatly damaged. We attempted to avoid moving him any more than it was absolutely necessary, but I could see, of course, all the extent of the wound.


Dr Ronald Jones: There was large defect in the back side of the head as the President lay on the cart with what appeared to be some brain hanging out of this wound with multiple pieces of skull noted next with the brain and with a tremendous amount of clot and blood.

Dr Paul Peters: I noticed the head wound, and as I remember--I noticed that there was a large defect in the occiput. It seemed to me that in the right occipitalparietal area that there was a large defect. There appeared to be bone loss and brain loss in the area…we speculated as to whether he had been shot once or twice because we saw the wound of entry in the throat and noted the large occipital wound

Dr Kemp Clark: I then examined the wound in the back of the President's head. This was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed.

Nurse Audrey Bell: Dr Perry turned the President's head slightly to the President's anatomical left so that she could see a right posterior head wound, which she described as occipital

Nurse Margaret Hinchcliff: the President had a gaping wound in the back of his head and an entrance wound in his throat.

Dr. Charles Crenshaw: The wound was the size of a baseball(photo depicts Crenshaw indicating right rear)

Dr. Kenneth Salyer: This wound extended into the parietal area(photo depicts Salyer indicating right rear)

Dr. Charles Carrico: There was a large, quite large, defect about here(photo depicts Carrico indicating right rear)


Aubrey Rike(Oneal Funeral Home, Dallas):You could feel the sharp edges of the bone at the edge of the hole in the back of the head

Bethesda photographer Floyd Riebe: ...a big gaping hole in the back of the head


FBI SA Frank O’Neill: ...a massive wound in the right rear

Petty Officer Saundra Spencer: They had one(autopsy photo) showing the back of the head with the wound at the back of the head. It was just a ragged hole.

Mortician Thomas Robinson: ...about the size of a small orange…Circular…ragged… directly behind the back of his head…they brought a piece of heavy duty rubber, again to fill this area in the back of the head…it had to be all dried out, packed, and the rubber placed in the hair and the skin pulled back over…and stitched into that piece of rubber.

FBI SA James Sibert: it was a good size, in the back part of the head there. Well, I think about 3 1/2 inches one way then quite a bit the other...they showed the pictures at that deposition that were neat in appearance, and boy, I don't remember anything like that
...but my recollection of the way the head looked is nothing that would appear as this photograph shows. This photograph is too neat. Right back here is where you would have had that massive wound, right in here, and you see that's neat. My thought was that that was probably taken after reconstruction was done... there was a big cavity there. I mean that you could look in to. The skull wasn’t intact, the bones weren’t in place…there definitely was a large cavity. It was just that apparent that there was so much skull missing

[Royell Storing]

All those are too blurry. Again, the Nix head-shot zoom on the previous page, clearly shows that his head suddenly snapped forward before moving backwards (nerve reflex for the latter). His head movements had nothing to do with Jackie.
That forward snap (the bullet impact) is clearly visible at Zapruder 312/313 also:

    To say, "ALL those are too blurry" is Not true.  You brought up the NIX FILM and NOW are retreating to the Z Film. The reason is obvious.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

These are the actual observations of some of the doctors at Parkland Memorial Hospital on 22 November 1963, as interviewed by Gerald Posner in 1992 for his book Case Closed. It will clear up any misguided conceptions of the preposterously outlandish claim of a large wound in the rear of the President's head.

Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Bill Midgett, 16 April 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Charles James Carrico, 8 March 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Adolph Hartung Giesecke, 5 March 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Paul Conrad Peters, 10 March 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Marion Thomas Jenkins, 3 March 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Malcolm Perry, 2 April 1992:


Gerald Posner's interview with Dr Charles Rufus Baxter, 12 March 1992:

Let's also remember that the Connallys and Kellerman said they were splatteredd/hit with blood/brain/matter after the 313/head shot. And that the limo was found to have blood/matter on the inside of the windshield, the front seats and the hood.

How could a blowout of the back/rear of JFK's head as the limo went forward and into a headwind lead to this blood/brain/flesh/matter landing in *front* of where he was seated? The exit wound is, for me, where we see it in the film. The top/side of the head. The eyewitnesses who said rear were mistaken. It happens. And the claims that it was blacked out are, frankly, made up by conspiracy believers whose only answer to evidence they don't like is to claim it's part of their conspiracy. Endless conspiracies for decades involving multiple generations of people many of whom weren't alive at the time of the assassination. When does it stop?

Added: The examination of the limo also found blood/brain/matter on the trunk of the limo, behind where JFK was sitting. And a motorcycle officer (Hargis) said he was hit with blood/matter as he rode behind the limo. But in both cases it seems obvious that the limo/Hargis drove *through* the matter as it came down. How this matter landed in front of where JFK was sitting *if* a bullet blew out the *back* of his head seems one that the "rear exit proponents" don't wish to answer.

[Jim Hawthorn]

    To say, "ALL those are too blurry" is Not true.  You brought up the NIX FILM and NOW are retreating to the Z Film. The reason is obvious.

Both films reveal that his head snapped forward then reflexed backwards. I don't really see what there is to discuss about that (unless you feel that both films have been tampered with).

[Royell Storing]

Both films reveal that his head snapped forward then reflexed backwards. I don't really see what there is to discuss about that (unless you feel that both films have been tampered with).

  Tampering issue(s) aside, it comes down to how far Forward YOU believe JFK's head traveled.  I do Not see this massive "Snapped Forward" movement you do. I see JFK's head tipping Down due to Jackie PULLING DOWNWARD on his Arm. Like the SBT, this "head snapped forward" stuff is nothing more than another "theory" that is required to support the, "1 Shooter from behind", hokum.